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Old 17 November 2006, 19:06   #31
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This is turning into a intresting debate for anybody wishing to buy new
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First Tim what are you useing now and how do you rate them

Second Jon are your new GX1500 going to be competitive with the 421
i am sure you wont be bias
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This is turning into a intresting debate for anybody wishing to buy new
electronics my self included

First Tim what are you useing now and how do you rate them

Second Jon are your new GX1500 going to be competitive with the 421
i am sure you wont be bias

Grumpy

As un- bias as I can be..here goes.

Price will be better on the GX1500.

Size of units is very close, GX1500 is a tad bigger

Warranty the same.

Display is bigger on the GX1500, same as that on the VM3500, so some size as M505 and M601.

Rotary knob for channel change on the GX1500, M421 has up/down buttons.

GX1500 will have a second station option which the M421 does not.
Whilst this is not a big factor for the rib market I have seen a number of ribs, from 6m up, use this option.

GX1500 has NMEA in and out, so with a compatible plotter can show DSC calls (distress and potion request) M421 can not do this.

GX1500 also has GPS repeat so lat/long, COG, SOG are shown on the radio.
Again the M421 does not.

That kind of covers the main bits.

Hope that helps.

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Thanks for that Jon

And now to the contentious question barring the obvious and i will try to word
this to save you any embarrassment which plotters are thay not compatible
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Thanks for that Jon

And now to the contentious question barring the obvious and i will try to word
this to save you any embarrassment which plotters are thay not compatible
with
I don't blush easy

The only plotters I know for def that have DSC built in are any of the Standard kit and the Garmin kit.
Don't think any others do but I stand to be corrected on that.

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This is turning into a intresting debate for anybody wishing to buy new
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First Tim what are you useing now and how do you rate them
Garmin Plotter very easy to use so may stick with this.
and Silva S 15 screen fades all the time now on number 7 radio why don't some manufactures supply a cover .
May fit Icom or Standard Horizon VHF DSC
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Garmin Plotter very easy to use so may stick with this.
I would never knock the Garmin kit.
It is what I have used all through my boating life and has never let me down.
Their service is second to none.

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I like then too
But am taken by the idea of having both from the same manufacturer .
You say the VHF is IPX 7 but am confused on the plotter IPX 5 unless you flush mount it then are you saying it is rated to IPX 7 also the stories of condensation / Fogging was this a problem with the older units or is this an assembly problem that needs to be looked at.
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A few years ago a lot of VHF were like this, the Icom M59 springs to mind.
Only splash proof unless flush mounted.

I think but not sure that a number of plotter are like this too.

I am not sure how much of a problem this really is with the SH plotters, will do a bit more checking over the next few days.

The new CP180 seems to be holding up very well and at SIBS was going for 229!!!

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Can you let us know Jon How do manufacturers road test their units before putting them on the market and giving them their IPX rating


As if it is rated IPX 7 when flush mounted I may be tempted to go for both if not will stick with Garmin .
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Have found the new GX1500 for 189 on web no pics though
the3500E looks a sound bit of kit to it would be nice to no what Mod VHF our Canadan freind is useing

Question why are colour plotters so damed expensive are we being screwed or is it just a case of manufactures cashing in while thay can on new technology
which brings us back being screwed
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