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24 November 2009, 18:16
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Splicing a radar cable - how difficult?
Have just bought a second hand Furuno radar set, a 1621 mark 2 with LCD screen. Unfortunately, the cable to the radome was cut while the set was being removed. Is it a major job to splice these cables?
It has a very fine coaxial cable inside the wiring bundle and I have been advised to join this with a TNC connector as they are the smallest and therefore neatest. Does anyone in Northern Ireland know where I can pick one of these TNC connectors up? Maplins and other electronics/aerial shops don't seem to have them....
Or would I be better just handing it over to a specialist??!! Any suggestions from the Norn Iron brigade?
Many thanks....
Mike
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24 November 2009, 18:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike-m
Unfortunately, the cable to the radome was cut while the set was being removed.
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In my humble experience you sir are buggered.
It is possible to join RADAR cable, but you will I think do well to get hold of an all new one. Hopefully the price you paid reflected the lack of a good cable?
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24 November 2009, 20:03
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You can buy all sorts of connectors from RS Components, online.
Use solder and adhesive lined heat shrink. There is no reason why it shouldn't work. Hopefully, he cut it at a point where the join will be indoors.
It will be a long job. Plan it carefully otherwise the bundle will get very thick!
Good luck!
Might be worth a trial run on some cable that doesn't matter.
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24 November 2009, 21:45
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Not done it on RADAR but I have spliced plenty of microwave links and satellite cables in my time.
They say you have to have expensive connectors and it is a hard job but I found just twisting the wires together did the job - if you want to be posh you can even solder them!!! I used kitcat foil for the shielding........
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25 November 2009, 09:30
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before you do anything have a word with geoffs on here, what he doesn't know about electronics i could write on my finger nail
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25 November 2009, 19:23
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If you solder and heatshrink all the wires, making sure you connect both the inner and outer of the screened cables then overwrap the lot with self amalgamating tape then you should be fine.
No need for a connector unless you want to be able to remove the scanner regularly.
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26 November 2009, 00:10
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Thanks!
Thanks everyone,
Will give it a go - must admit it is only the coax screened cable that worries me. Guess you just twist the centre wire together, solder and insulate, then crimp the screening and insulate?
Will let you know how I get on....
Regards
Mike
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26 November 2009, 11:54
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Mike, before you start do a search. Joining screened cable and splicing radar lead has been covered before in reasonable detail.
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26 November 2009, 17:55
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Radar operates at a ultra high radio frequency. This means that poor cable connections are very 'lossy' in terms of transmitted and received signal strength. One short circuit by way of a braid filiment touching the inner coax conductor will push your voltage standing wave ratio off the scale and may well damage the set beyond repair. You can try BNC connectors if you want (buy them from Waters and Stanton -01702 206835) but they're tricky to put on and if not done properly you will suffer signal degradation. My advice would be to return the set to the factory and get the job done professionally.
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26 November 2009, 18:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GJ0KYZ
Radar operates at a ultra high radio frequency. This means that poor cable connections are very 'lossy' in terms of transmitted and received signal strength. One short circuit by way of a braid filiment touching the inner coax conductor will push your voltage standing wave ratio off the scale and may well damage the set beyond repair. You can try BNC connectors if you want (buy them from Waters and Stanton -01702 206835) but they're tricky to put on and if not done properly you will suffer signal degradation. My advice would be to return the set to the factory and get the job done professionally.
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I agree fully with what you say, however not 100% certain but I think you'll find the UHF is confined to the scanner head and the coax being discussed carries a lower frequency/power signal.
G6YUX
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