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24 February 2012, 19:09
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Country: UK - England
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Radio and Ariel
am i stupid or obviously missing the point totally ?!?!?! :-( I have had a few different boats and fitted most the equipment and never had a problem.
the dive club i am in has just bought a new rib so i am now after a new (ish) engine, chartplotter and VHF.
there is one bloke at the club that insists that it is hard to fit a radio and have the ariel tuned to the radio! every package i have bought ive put together and its been excellent no issues with transmission or usability, he does like to make things more awkward than they are and thinks he is the only person that knows this black magic !!!
all i have done is connected them together and like magic they work !?!?
Phil
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24 February 2012, 19:29
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Country: UK - N Ireland
Town: Rostrevor
Boat name: Ricochet
Make: Redbay
Length: 7m +
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As long as the aerial is a Marine VHF Antenna then it is just "plug and play" 
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24 February 2012, 19:31
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Town: jersey
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there is one bloke at the club that insists that it is hard to fit a radio and have the ariel tuned to the radio! every package i have bought ive put together and its been excellent no issues with transmission or usability, he does like to make things more awkward than they are and thinks he is the only person that knows this black magic !!!
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Every club has one of those unfortunately 
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24 February 2012, 19:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Thornaby
Boat name: Storm
Make: Humber Ocean Pro 6.5
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lol, i know, grrrrrr.
oh yeah i.e... Marine Shop, can i have that radio and that ariel please sir??? yes certainly !
why do some people make life so hard !!
So i now need someone to give me a good deal on a chartplotter / sounder , vhf the boat already has an ariel.
any ideas?
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24 February 2012, 20:40
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amazon had icom 411 at good price
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24 February 2012, 21:06
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he must have been a cb radio fan - theyre all about tuning aerials. never had a problem with marine vhf
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24 February 2012, 21:16
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Town: East Kent and Brittany
Boat name: Cameo
Make: Redbay Stormforce
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Engine: 200hp Suzuki
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a good bit of SWR'ing I seem to remember, I still think I've got a Standing Wave Ratio meter kicking around the house .. however I've not read anywhere about having to swarr (SWR) in a marine ariel, maybe they become pre swared these days, or the frequency we're looking at doesnt require it ...
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24 February 2012, 22:47
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Town: Jersey
Boat name: Archangel
Make: Ribcraft
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It quite funny reading people's comments on radio and antenna issues when you've been a ham for 25 years.
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24 February 2012, 23:02
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Bet you neighbours love that aerial!!!
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25 February 2012, 06:52
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Country: UK - England
Town: East Kent and Brittany
Boat name: Cameo
Make: Redbay Stormforce
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To be fair though .. that's a cracking looking washing line, even has a built in rotator .. my Mrs would be envious too !
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25 February 2012, 06:56
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Country: UK - England
Town: Thornaby
Boat name: Storm
Make: Humber Ocean Pro 6.5
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Lol.... HAM ? Is that someone with a massive ariel in the garden who talks to aliens !! ;-)
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25 February 2012, 07:35
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Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
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You're either not married or have a very understanding wife!
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25 February 2012, 11:05
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
Boat name: Archangel
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No, my neighbours don't like the tower or the antenna but since I have full planning permission there's not much they can do about it. The tower can be raised to 40ft.
Yes, the antenna rotates; I have flown a flag from it in the past but have not hung any washing.
I don't talk to aliens but in the last week or so I have had contacts with Pitcairn Island, South Shetland Islands, Malpelo Islands and the Congo.
I'm happily married to Mrs GJ0KYZ (her of roly poly fame). Actually she doesn't mind my radio hobby at all. However, going out in the boat in rough weather is another matter entirely...
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28 February 2012, 20:20
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Town: South Yorks
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Make: Ribcraft
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I have had contacts with Pitcairn Island, South Shetland Islands, Malpelo Islands and the Congo.
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Is that on Facebook? 
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28 February 2012, 20:55
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GJ0KYZ hope the glow in the windows is a valve set not one of those modern plastic and silicon jobs :-) 73 2I0GTO
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28 February 2012, 22:00
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Town: Torrance
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...or all the leaky RF making the fluorescent tubes glow 
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09 March 2012, 08:00
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Originally Posted by horacebat
there is one bloke at the club that insists that it is hard to fit a radio and have the ariel tuned to the radio! every package i have bought ive put together and its been excellent no issues with transmission or usability, he does like to make things more awkward than they are and thinks he is the only person that knows this black magic !!!
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It's hard(ish) to build your own aerial and tune it to the frequency but you won't need to do too much to use an off the shelf one 
An SWR meter is useful to troubleshoot problems (high SWR indicates a problem) but if everything is new you shouldn't have any...
VP8CIX 
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