Radar that Works

[whitefordsinuk]

Hi all, I have been searching for Radar that works properly on a RIB for search and rescue but is practical. The latest Rumour I hear is about Kelvin Hughes SCV but there does not seem to be much info. Anyone else know anything?

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by whitefordsinuk

Hi all, I have been searching for Radar that works properly on a RIB for search and rescue but is practical. The latest Rumour I hear is about Kelvin Hughes SCV but there does not seem to be much info. Anyone else know anything?

I believe it that it's not available to the public.

I may yet be proved wrong there, but apparently it's export controlled technology at the moment.

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by whitefordsinuk

Hi all, I have been searching for Radar that works properly on a RIB for search and rescue but is practical. The latest Rumour I hear is about Kelvin Hughes SCV but there does not seem to be much info. Anyone else know anything?

I would think it would depend on what sort of Search and Rescue you're doing and the size of the boat - what have you tried that doesn't work properly and why?

[AMac]

I was talking to a radar instructor and he said that 95% of people on his courses who already had/used radar on there vessels could not interpret the screens on front of them before the course but they all insisted they could!!
He suggested that if fitting radar go on the training course for the particular system that you are buying
I have also been told by others that if you have radar fitted you need a cert of competence - does anybody know if this is correct?

[Milboat]

I don't think the SCV is available for sale to the public, either. However, if it was a national institution like the RNLI or a governmental search and rescue organisation like they have overseas, Im sure they would be able to obtain the radar for SAR use. Im not aware of any requirement for private boat owners to have radar certification in the UK. Large commercial vessel users need to though.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by AMac

I was talking to a radar instructor and he said that 95% of people on his courses who already had/used radar on there vessels could not interpret the screens on front of them before the course but they all insisted they could!!
He suggested that if fitting radar go on the training course for the particular system that you are buying
I have also been told by others that if you have radar fitted you need a cert of competence - does anybody know if this is correct?

You don't need a cert of competence, but you need to add it to your ships radio licence, along with your PLB, epirb, Sea Me etc.

[captnjack]

Originally Posted by Cookee

I would think it would depend on what sort of Search and Rescue you're doing and the size of the boat - what have you tried that doesn't work properly and why?

Looking for a MOB head bobbing about in 3m waves??

<ducks>

[Poly]

Originally Posted by whitefordsinuk

Hi all, I have been searching for Radar that works properly on a RIB for search and rescue but is practical. The latest Rumour I hear is about Kelvin Hughes SCV but there does not seem to be much info. Anyone else know anything?

Originally Posted by Milboat

I don't think the SCV is available for sale to the public, either. However, if it was a national institution like the RNLI or a governmental search and rescue organisation like they have overseas, Im sure they would be able to obtain the radar for SAR use. Im not aware of any requirement for private boat owners to have radar certification in the UK. Large commercial vessel users need to though.

Well would you believe that despite Kelvin Hughes turning over around £60 million they can't find £100 for trade membership. They are presumably new to social media and think that by surreptitiously posting they will be able to generate interest in their products - rather than going for the more straightforward approach.

Perhaps the Directors of Kelvin Hughes would like to take a leaf out of Airhull SA's book?

Of course I could be wrong and its all a coincidence that two of the posters on this thread have links to the names of Area Sales Managers at Kelvin Hughes.

[wavelength]

Of course I could be wrong and its all a coincidence

personnaly I'm loving my Simrad Broadband 4Gx radar, far far better than the set it replaced which was made by some other company

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by AMac

He suggested that if fitting radar go on the training course for the particular system that you are buying
I have also been told by others that if you have radar fitted you need a cert of competence - does anybody know if this is correct?

Spoken as a person selling courses I would imagine he would say that! Try talking to someone who has been on a course - as for certificate of competence whoever told you that little gem walk past them next time!

[Ribochet]

Originally Posted by AMac

I have also been told by others that if you have radar fitted you need a cert of competence - does anybody know if this is correct?

The use of Radar is covered under IRPCS Rule 7 Risk of Collision extract:

(a) Every vessel shall use all available means appropriate to the prevailing circumstances and conditions to determine if risk of collision exists. If there is any doubt such risk shall be deemed to exist.
(b) Proper use shall be made of radar equipment if fitted and operational, including long-range scanning to obtain early warning of risk of collision and radar plotting or equivalent systematic observation of detected objects

A formal qualification is not a requirement for leisure use in the UK but the IRPCS clearly states that proper use of radar equipment must be made in the above context - ignorance is not an excuse.

I have a broadband Radar fitted on my RIB and it is brilliant and does exactly what it claimed it could do

[Copinsay]

Originally Posted by Poly

Of course I could be wrong and its all a coincidence that two of the posters on this thread have links to the names of Area Sales Managers at Kelvin Hughes.

And just happened to join us at the same time... spooky....

[Copinsay]

Originally Posted by wavelength

personnaly I'm loving my Simrad Broadband 4Gx radar, far far better than the set it replaced which was made by some other company

Hi Dave - that sounds like a brilliant product. How does it compare on cost with other systems? Seems like you are really happy with the deal you got.

Do you have any links or pictures so people can see how good it is, especially if it's more widely available than what the OP posted about.

Thanks for sharing - anyone else like this seemingly tried and tested product?

Steve

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by Copinsay

Hi Dave - that sounds like a brilliant product. How does it compare on cost with other systems? Seems like you are really happy with the deal you got.

Do you have any links or pictures so people can see how good it is, especially if it's more widely available than what the OP posted about.

Thanks for sharing - anyone else like this seemingly tried and tested product?

Steve

We like subtle but effective

[Copinsay]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

We like subtle but effective

[willk]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

We like subtle but effective

Should be our byline

Would it be fair to say that the most excellent SIMRAD RADAR gear is virtually identical to it's sister brand - LOWRANCE. Some GREAT packages going there at the moment.

From a personal perspective - I was watching donegaldan mess with a rather tasty GARMIN HD set last weekend and it converted me - I'm a believer!

[Nos4r2]

Yes. I have to say I'm really tempted by the current LOWRANCE or SIMRAD broadband radar with NMEA200 compatability.

(Other makes might possibly be available. Not sure which though?)

[Copinsay]

Gee thanks Guys.

So while I have AIS on my RIB, for adding radar, from your experience it's worth looking at:

LOWRANCE
SIMRAD or
GARMIN

... makes of unit. That sounds like quite a good range of units to choose from.

I assume all those are for sale in the UK without restriction?

Many thanks for helping me out like this.

Steve

[paddlers]

[Ribochet]

Originally Posted by Copinsay

So while I have AIS on my RIB, for adding radar, from your experience it's worth looking at:

LOWRANCE
SIMRAD or
GARMIN

I had an AIS receiver linked up on my last RIB but did not fit one on my present - instead I fitted the "all seeing" Simrad Broadband Radar system.

BTW Lowrance and Simrad are both part of Navico.

Originally Posted by Copinsay

Do you have any links or pictures so people can see how good it is

This is a library photo which I can vouch for - very impressive