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Old 26 February 2004, 13:29   #1
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Has anyone tried out the new plastimo 7100 dsc vhf radio or heard of any good or bad reviews on it.
Seems very good value.But is it?

If Jon Brooks answers I'm sure it will be bad
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Old 26 February 2004, 13:46   #2
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Hi, I had a look at them at LBS they 'look' very good 'for the money'. I should have them in stock around 15th March, I'll let you know what I think after i've had a closer look. Shame Icom UK don't sell the 402 as would be great.

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Old 26 February 2004, 14:10   #3
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I had a look at the NEC boat show and ive only heard good reports about them.

ps. Im sticking with the silva s10.
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Old 27 February 2004, 04:32   #4
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Ok here it comes!!

Firstly I am a huge Icom fan, not just cause they pay my wages.
Have always worked with, repaired or sold Icom kit.
Long before I came here.

I use Icom radio's all the time away from here, not just in a boat.

But...

This unit does look good, feels nice easy to use.
Bigish display
My 3 big tests for any radio is :- can I fly it without a manual, can I read the disply without my glasses, could I use it with gloves on.
This one I can, there is a lot I can't.

The proof in the pudding is feedback from people who have it on their boat.

I get a lot of feedback about everyones radio's, I always test everyones radio's, easy to sort the chaff from the wheat then.

Icom to have a hole in the line up at the moment, and we know it.
We do not have an entry level all in one.

If you have the money and the space I would always fit our M601.
But I would say that!!

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Old 27 February 2004, 07:30   #5
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Out of interest why aren't the M402* and the M502* sold here. The M601 is certainly excellent but it is very much at the upper end of the scale and is very big, the need to bolt on the DSC unit to the 401 & 501 makes this often an impractical option for many consoles. The result being Icom must be losing out to the Simrad RD68 & other units. I appreciate you may state it will be about type approval but if Icom UK are minded to achieve this then i cannot believe its that difficult or expensive to achieve and would fill an undoubted gap in the product range - it may also stop loads of people selling the US versions on Ebay!

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*These are DSC equipped versions of the M401 & M501
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Hi Paul,

The DSC standard in the above units is either class F or SC101 and not class D.
Both are only for use in the USA.

It is not a high enough standard for Europe.

Is is only ok for US that never leave US waters. If the boat comes this way it must carry a class D DSC.
They have 2 types of VHF ship licence, one is for boats that never leave and I understand this is free.
For boats leaving the US it is about $200 per year.

Yes we do loose out at that end of the market but I don't think it will be forever!!

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Old 27 February 2004, 10:32   #7
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Re: Ok here it comes!!

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My 3 big tests for any radio is :- can I fly it without a manual, can I read the disply without my glasses, could I use it with gloves on.
My number one big test for any radio is - does the ba****d let water in, and in the case of some of your handhelds, Jon, I'm afraid they do - all too readily.
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Old 27 February 2004, 10:40   #8
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Which radio?

M31 M21 M1V M87 and the old M15 are all fully waterproof.
Anything else is only splashproof.
If they let water in whilst under warranty (3 years) and its not neglect it is replaced FOC.

This also goes for the M401, M503 and M601.

Would be very interested in which radio you are having or had problem with.


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Yes we do loose out at that end of the market but I don't think it will be forever!!

For sale ICOM 401 !!!! Nearly New.
Don't tell me it's nearly obsolete already.

Should I wait for a cheaper ICOM DSC or upgrade to DSC with the ICOM 100 (or whatever it is) now?

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There is nothing new in the pipeline at this time.
Hand on heart but hell that could change tomorrow.

When you looking at buying a DSC unit? (DS100)

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