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Old 10 January 2016, 03:28   #51
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Had already made a remote back in the late eighties for my 16 foot grew. Worked great and ran an arm to the outboard from the electric and both steered through the steering system. But bot were on the stern.
I bring up the boating projects I'm working-on here in case of interest, really could not care about the noisy negativists, lol. Yes, this forum does have both experienced boaters AND experienced whiners too.

As for steering a bow mounted electric from using the outboard, tried-it once and it was anything but responsive and that was on a deep V bottom boat.

I would imagine using the same technique with a flat-bottomed SIB would be next to impossible other than eventual course correction due to sliding. I had an extra 14 volt drill which I could no longer get batteries for, including the manufacturer..so thought perhaps I could put it to use in making a steering system for the to be bow-mounted electric. 14 volt motor will run OK under a 12.6 volt battery.

The reason for the remote engine shut off is exactly for that purpose - shut-off the engine ( a bypass switch will be mounted on the cowl for a second party to restart), there will also be a keyed system which will disallow starting of the outboard while I'm away from the dock. So many here have lost their boats to theft while docked. Most outboard engines, even keyed, will start by simply unplugging the electrical harness.
The strobe (and receiver unit) as I had mentioned will be mounted between the stern lamp and pole.

The SOS strobe is in case of going overboard after getting caught in a storm or severe weather that I can see the boat and to hopefully-alert others should it drift faster than one can swim.

As for the commercial version, it will do several things and will require double antennas, etc.. Since it's not an "Off the Shelf" device, it has to be designed-electronically hence seeing an engineer.
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Old 10 January 2016, 03:52   #52
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The reason for the remote engine shut off is exactly for that purpose - shut-off the engine ( a bypass switch will be mounted on the cowl for a second party to restart), there will also be a keyed system which will disallow starting of the outboard while I'm away from the dock. So many here have lost their boats to theft while docked. Most outboard engines, even keyed, will start by simply unplugging the electrical harness.
The strobe (and receiver unit) as I had mentioned will be mounted between the stern lamp and pole.

The SOS strobe is in case of going overboard after getting caught in a storm or severe weather that I can see the boat and to hopefully-alert others should it drift faster than one can swim.

As for the commercial version, it will do several things and will require double antennas, etc.. Since it's not an "Off the Shelf" device, it has to be designed-electronically hence seeing an engineer.
So - the engine shut off... there will be a bypass switch on the cowl, and a keyed system.
My outboard already has a key system, in fact I think all electrically started outboards have one,
and the bypass switch on the cowl, doesnt fill me with confidence from a security or reliability aspect.

I am all too familiar with the scenario you mention for the SOS Strobe
- but the Raymarine unit will display your MOB position on the boats plotter
through the SeaTalk system (handy if someone is looking for you!)
and if by myself - I am reaching for my PLB and handheld VHF at that point.
Not sure the strobe is the most useful alerting
device to trigger.
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They'll have to tow it!
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The SOS strobe is in case of going overboard after getting caught in a storm or severe weather that I can see the boat and to hopefully-alert others should it drift faster than one can swim.
It will drift faster than you can swim if it's either a storm of severe weather, i can almost guarantee it.
PLB and/or handheld radio is your best option, not sure a flashing light on the transom of a sib is going to be that visible especially if no one is actually looking for you yet.
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Well the great thing about that is you'd have the discussion to yourselves and not have to endure other people's wisecracks on YOUR thread.
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In addition to sounding an alarm & placing the MOB waypoint on the plotter ( I assume you would be building that functionality into your system, Nightfisher), the Raymarine unit also has an auxiliary 12v switched output on alarm to err umm.... switch a strobe on/cut out engine/raise a flag/put the kettle on etc.
Not whinging, just saying.........
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Old 10 January 2016, 06:09   #57
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I bring up the boating projects I'm working-on here in case of interest, really could not care about the noisy negativists, lol
Well.. Plenty of people have wasted their money ignoring common sense advice. I haven't seen a poster say.... Oooh let me know when you've built it and I will buy one.

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Yes, this forum does have both experienced boaters AND experienced whiners too.
I don't think that can be the case... I suggest you read the forum rules.

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As for steering a bow mounted electric from using the outboard, tried-it once and it was anything but responsive and that was on a deep V bottom boat.
ERM... D'ya think that there is a reason most engines are designed to push rather than pull the boat?


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there will also be a keyed system which will disallow starting of the outboard while I'm away from the dock. So many here have lost their boats to theft while docked.
round here I think more are list on trailers or rather just engines...
But unless you are reprogramming the engine management unit it will always be possible to either short or break the circuit and start it. Your only advantage will be security through obscurity while no-one knows about your code bit. As soon as you do you are screwed. Also if you have to leave the console to enter a code to start the engine I'm starting to understand why you don't like KCs.


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The SOS strobe is in case of going overboard after getting caught in a storm or severe weather that I can see the boat and to hopefully-alert others should it drift faster than one can swim.
I'm pretty sure I told you once before to look up MustRIBs round Ireland incident. He is one of the few people who could first hand have benefitted from a MOB device. Oh he was it was red n curly and did its job. Anyway. He was unable to catch his boat. He was in a sea but not a storm. No suggestion in his reports that finding him or his rib once assets arrived was a problem. Yet your functions could well have left him drifting with no rescue coming.

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As for the commercial version, it will do several things and will require double antennas, etc.. Since it's not an "Off the Shelf" device, it has to be designed-electronically hence seeing an engineer.
Didn't answer the question. What stops someone using your single user device commercially or expanding it up to multiuser. Yes on a ship you generally need SOLAS approvals etc on a yacht I want all 8 crew wired up.

And still nothing the Raymarine can't do with a linked in relay?

Oh and as for telling Poly to get his own thread... Did he touch a nerve there perhaps? When he explained that for less than 10 per crew member authorised to helm you can stop anyone forgetting to apply the KC by permanently fixing it to their Life Jacket...? I'm awaiting a poster to explain why that doesn't work for them ... Coz its worked for me for years but maybe I missed something.
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When we had a cabin RIB- with an autopilot - I imposed a no leaving the cabin rule when single handed.

Just so tempting !

You could make a cup of tea Tho; or as I often did when single handed sit in the passenger seat and Nav from there.
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Hi all,
Seems to me, it would be far better catching up with your boat than it just cruising away Without You. Isn't that what the age-old designed tether's for.

I fish Canadian lakes and sometimes the Pacific Ocean, where wave & weather is not as severe.. so the unit has (perhaps) more usefulness here. Lastly I fish through the night for night feeding - Walleye (another important reason for the SOS strobe).

Quite an interest elsewhere and for many here that have PM'd me about the design. But as I said, I really could care less for debunkers. The remote will comes with a total of four on buttons so there's addition things that can be utilized through it, as you suggest Raymarine unit.
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Seems to me, it would be far better catching up with your boat than it just cruising away Without You. Isn't that what the age-old designed tether's for.
What makes you think you will catch up with it. The tether is designed to stop the engine, but you might be surprised how quick it drifts at a different speed from you.

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The remote will comes with a total of four on buttons so there's addition things that can be utilized through it, as you suggest Raymarine unit.
No nmea output though?

I'm not trying to Diss your idea (Afterall Raymarine have presumably done market research) but if it's main application is for trolling at night would the yachting approach of a safety harness that ensures you remain on board not work?
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