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Old 07 October 2008, 03:59   #11
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Quick question on NMEA engine networks and lowrance LMF-400 gauges.
I mind reading somewhere that in the US the Suzuki motors are supplied with network gauges only (rebranded Lowrance) instead of the analogue gauges supplied here.
Does this mean that I can use two LMF-400 gauges and remove the Suzuki supplied gauges entirely, ie all the engine alarm functions etc will work on the network gauges?
Hi Bruce

Not sure about Suzi but can tell you that Evinrude will as they also use LMF-400 rebadged as an I-command gauge. But there is a caviate to this in that if the engine is under warranty then if you do this you have invalidated the warranty. The reason is that the firmware in the guages are different and the system check function is missing from the LMF-400, it can be programmed to do a basic engine diagnostic but this is not acceptable to Evinrude if you have a warranty claim. I do know that the Suzi tachometer has a similar system check, so I would check with Suzuki first.

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The LMF-400 shows exactly the same data as the standard analogue gauges, so I can't see why you couldn't swap over entirely to digital and interlink a few together. I think I'd keep the main tacho with the warning lights as a backup incase of nmea2000 malfunction though.
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Old 07 October 2008, 14:57   #13
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I have the main 4" tacho and two 2" gauges fitted at the moment (volt and trim). I may mount two LMF-400's and stick the tacho in the middle, will see what takes my fancy.
I have the whole network up and running including the outboard and two seperate plotters, it seems to work very well.
the reason I am thinking of fitting the gauges is that I am using one plotter in gauge mode to display fuel, speed, depth etc etc and If I split this off onto gauges they will be easier to see and the plotter can be used as a plotter again for the cox with the other as backup and for navigating with by the crew (ie the wife) and later as the AIS display.
The real reason of course is that I like my toys
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Old 14 October 2008, 03:23   #14
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I am trying to get the white faces for the LMF-400 gauges but nobody seems to have heard of them in this country.
Even navico don't list them but they are available in the US.
Anybody know where I could get a couple in the UK?
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Old 14 October 2008, 04:06   #15
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I am trying to get the white faces for the LMF-400 gauges but nobody seems to have heard of them in this country.
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I have not heard of white faces and cannot see how an lcd could be white except in inverse video mode but different bezels are available via Evinrude and as they are the same guage they should fit. I have attached copy of the relevant page of parts manual.

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It bezels I am after, They are listed in the US but Lowrance (navico) have no idea what I am talking about. Got them to look on a US site and they are trying to chase them down but no luck so far.
Suzi and Rood gauges are the same Lowrance units so this may be an option If I can find someone that both lists and sells them in the UK.
If they are the same as Lowrance kit then there should be a night mode which is reverse video, black screen and white (or really light grey) lettering and numbers.
I found this after playing with the simulator, hadn't came across it in the manual but bearing in mind Lowrance instructions it isn't surprising!
I have two LMF 400's on the way and the holes are cut waiting on them. Should take 15mins to fit and connect once they are here. It would be nice to match them to the existing white faced gauges hence the query.
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Let me know if you find a UK supplier of the bezels. It'd make mine a lot smarter if it was in white to match the dials as well. Hadn't thought of doing it before, even though I knew you could get different bezels from Brownspoint.
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It bezels I am after, They are listed in the US but Lowrance (navico) have no idea what I am talking about. Got them to look on a US site and they are trying to chase them down but no luck so far.
I had the same problem, wanted the 2" chrome bezel and an EP-85R memory module, parts listed in the states but Navico will not supply here. Only available through Evinrude dealers at twice the price.
I have kept the Evinrude guages of volts, trim, pitot speed and tachometer with digital engine check and added a Lowrance net of engine, LMF 200, Globalmap 8200c and LGC3000 GPS. Still need the bezel and EP 85R, have to see if relatives in the states can get them.

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I have the standard Suzuki tacho with engine check and a 2" voltmeter, trim is moving onto one of the new LMF400 gauges.
My network once they arrive will be LCX-27, LGC 3000, Gmap 4800, Suzuki interface and two LMF 400's.
Eventually I am going to change out the 4800 plotter for a colour version with internal aerial to back up the LGC 3000.
It all seems to work very well once you get past Lowrance instructions, or lack of them!
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I called Suzuki UK to check the issue about using the standard analogue Tacho instead of networked gauges as the US does on Suzis as it had been mentioned on here that there was a warranty issue doing so.
The advice I got was that there was no warranty issue going fully NMEA2000 as long as the alarms on the supplied tacho were monitored via the network.
So I ordered two more gauges and am going networked completely via three LMF 400's and a LMF 200.
More toys!
I have them also looking into white bezels for all the gauges, apparently they are available to special order.
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