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Old 25 August 2004, 03:21   #11
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Or you could consider ...

....Lowrance

Spent quite a long time comparing specs/prices earlier this year and the Lowrance GlobalMap 3300C came out tops for me . I've used it in anger now and have to say I'm delighted with it. And the Navonics Gold XL3 charts are superb one SD card covers UK coastline from Brigton to South West Scotland, Chanel Islands , Some French Coast on the English Channel and all of Ireland.
http://www.navionics.com/Europe/Catalogue/uk_xl3.asp

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http://www.jgtech.co.uk/
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Old 25 August 2004, 04:14   #12
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Or of course you could shell out and fit once a raymarine and not have to change it out at all.

Garmin definatly has a good reputation for warrenttee work and returns. but why do they need to do such a service if it didn't fail in the first place.
Though my handheld has done well for 5 years - but don't shake it or it turns off.

Navman nuff said by others

Hummingbird - great in the US where they have a great returns policy at a good price, when they brake they make great fishing weights

And I won't get onto radios
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Old 25 August 2004, 04:23   #13
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For what it's worth I think Garmin are the easiest to operate - I have to use other makes on boats I skipper from time to time and some of them are hard work whereas Garmin are like Nokia phones - intuitive and easy to operate - add to that reliabilty and customer service and there is no contest! (All IMHO of course!)
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Old 25 August 2004, 09:55   #14
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I am thinking of buying a Navman GPS plotter instead of the Garmin 182 any comments welcomed .Thanks in advance .
Have a very close look at both units you intend to buy.

I have a Garmin 126 which has been replaced once under warranty. (Took 5 weeks). The screws in the back of it are starting to go rusty now. And the plug which goes in to the back of the unit fits in very flimsily and is starting to show the effects of salt water getting in.

I also have a Lowrance unit and that is much better constructed. Better plugs and plastic screws at the back of the unit which can't rust.

I can't speak for the units you intend to buy but as I say have a really good look at them. It seems to me that a lot of Garmins have to go back, from what you read on this Web Site.
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Old 25 August 2004, 09:59   #15
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Imho

With regards Navman and thier backup. I found them to be excellent when I wanted to link my DSC VHF to my Garmin GPS. I put a thank you on this web site for all the hard work one of the chaps did for me.

Nothing seemed to be a problem. I wish every company had as good a backup.
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Old 25 August 2004, 10:46   #16
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For what it's worth I think Garmin are the easiest to operate
I have to concur with Cookee here..... in the last month or so, I've used Garmin, Navman, Furuno, and Lowrance chartplotters and everytime I have looked forward to going back to my Garmin 182.

The Navman is ok, without the manual, I managed to get the information I wanted up on the screen in the end, but it did take a while - this was on a dive charter boat which wasn't moving around as much as the rib does too. The unit itself I found was a little slower to redraw than the Garmin, but the quality of charts etc... seemed to be pretty much the same only diff being I work with B&W Bluecharts and this was colour.

The Furuno, although it's an old(ish) unit, I wonder if they have changed their menu system and means of setting waypoints etc... - it's a nightmare, and extremely slow to redraw. Even when you're motoring along at 10 knots, when it changes screen, you have to wait a good 5 to 10 seconds for things to become readable again - that 5 or 10 seconds while doing 30 knots would be quite a distance.
The Lowrance unit I was playing with on a rib yesterday was great - it seems to be a completely solid bit of kit and in this case has fishfinder on as well as charts which is fine to a point.
The immediate redraw is a bit slow, but when it's drawn, the chart quality seems quite fine, and the fish finder bit is excellent with full colour on it. I haven't asked whether it's steamed up ever, but the unit itself is open to the elements on a daily basis and looks well used, yet still works.
What I didn't like was the menu system though, which was a nightmare to navigate through for a first timer.

Back to the Garmin, my own one, apart from initially setting it up, I've never read the manual for my 182, since everything I find is where I expect it to be, like Cookee says similar to a Nokia mobile phone. The unit is fast, and hasn't steamed up on me yet, despite being open to all weathers, and going out in cold weather at the beginning of the year. Where linking it to the VHF was concerned it was a doddle - the cables that came with it, and the manual were more than sufficient to wire everything up quickly and easily.

Hopefully I will never have to use Garmin tech support for it, but it's good to read on teh forums that if I do, it should be fixed pretty quickly

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Old 25 August 2004, 11:40   #17
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The Lowrance unit I was playing with on a rib yesterday was great - it seems to be a completely solid bit of kit and in this case has fishfinder on as well as charts which is fine to a point.
The immediate redraw is a bit slow, but when it's drawn, the chart quality seems quite fine, and the fish finder bit is excellent with full colour on it. I haven't asked whether it's steamed up ever, but the unit itself is open to the elements on a daily basis and looks well used, yet still works.
What I didn't like was the menu system though, which was a nightmare to navigate through for a first timer.
You can try the Lowrance menu's before you buy by downloading an emulator from here :

http://www.lowrance.com/Software/PCSoftware/demos.asp
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Old 25 August 2004, 16:14   #18
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I almost bought a Navman, the 6500 I think it was, but eventually went for the Garmin 2006C instead. The only reason I considered the Navman was that it can be hooked up to a fuel meter which I thought would be a fine idea seeing as I've got an underfloor tank.

Having said all that, I've got no regrets about going Garmin. The menu system and 'soft keys' on the 2006 are first class. Oh and I bought the separate Navman Fuel 3100 as well. It's great to know how many mpg's you're doing and how much range you've got left in your tank.
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NAVMAN,

Gavin and I got the stuff from the states, at 50% cheeper than the UK........

I just clamed the vat back as a new computer !!!!

I know we have had problems with the units in the past, and Plastimo in the UK are a Joke... and thats been kind...

If I was buying again, it would probaly Go for the Navman again ... for 2 resions . and if money wasnt an a concern, it would be Lowrance

1. Fuel computer .... when set up it accurate with 5-10%
2. Value for money
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Old 26 August 2004, 05:58   #20
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NAVMAN,

Gavin and I got the stuff from the states, at 50% cheeper than the UK........

I just clamed the vat back as a new computer !!!!

I know we have had problems with the units in the past, and Plastimo in the UK are a Joke... and thats been kind...

If I was buying again, it would probaly Go for the Navman again ... for 2 resions . and if money wasnt an a concern, it would be Lowrance

1. Fuel computer .... when set up it accurate with 5-10%
2. Value for money

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Of course most people thought this act was to counter terrorists etc but it actually says

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