navman or raymarine chartplotter - Page 2

eupa · 20 July 2006, 14:45

Garmin ever time.

I echo Jon Brooks on this. Have the 2010c and this has been / is first class

- easy to use
- easy to see ( 10" screen)
- first class back up.

I will give you an example of the latter- when i purchase this ( in Belgium)-registered with garmin USA ( in fact you have,to as they give you two areas in mapsouce- and to get the unlock key you have to quote the serial number)
( I could be wrong on this??).

Anyway to cut it short-- out of the blue I received a mail from Garmin USA informing me that the firmware MUST be updated- and they would send me the update FOC. Low and behold 5 days later i received the module .Update was a sinch .. but that's what I call service. I think they want it back- but if anybody wants the update let me know.

jonathan

Jon Brooks · 20 July 2006, 15:01

We are looking at a new radar for Windrider.

It came with a Raymarine and to be honest it is dire! IMHO
For something that is meant for the boating world it don't cope with it all that well!
No matter what we do to clear it the screen is always fogged!

Over the winter the plan is to remove it and replace with the Garmin Radar.
The main screen will be either the 3006 or the 3010. the second being the prefered choice.
I like the idea of having the radar overlaid on chart plotter with AIS on the at same.
Also, if we fit them, it can have two camera feeds! flash as!!

I find that the updaing of Garmin kit is a doddle too.
Keep an eye on thier site, download, plug in, upload and Roberts your dads brother!
Its so easy even I can do it!

Regards

codprawn · 20 July 2006, 17:11

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Originally Posted by Jon Brooks

We are looking at a new radar for Windrider.

It came with a Raymarine and to be honest it is dire! IMHO
For something that is meant for the boating world it don't cope with it all that well!
No matter what we do to clear it the screen is always fogged!

Over the winter the plan is to remove it and replace with the Garmin Radar.
The main screen will be either the 3006 or the 3010. the second being the prefered choice.
I like the idea of having the radar overlaid on chart plotter with AIS on the at same.
Also, if we fit them, it can have two camera feeds! flash as!!

I find that the updaing of Garmin kit is a doddle too.
Keep an eye on thier site, download, plug in, upload and Roberts your dads brother!
Its so easy even I can do it!

Regards

Yes but what Raymarine - how old? Mine has no hint of fogging at all - my mates Garmin does it occasionally - the Navman's do it all the time!!!

Hugh Jardon · 20 July 2006, 19:41

garmins all the way for me too, great product and superb product support

cant fault them

Mollers · 20 July 2006, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

garmins all the way for me too, great product and superb product support

cant fault them

But Chris,with all due respect, you have no experience of anything other than that that you have chosen to put on your boat. Raymarine is serious kit. I've done offshore delivery trips on yachts fitted with Raymarine systems and they are superb. Garmin is good stuff but, as with most things in life, there are 'horses for courses'.

Hugh Jardon · 20 July 2006, 22:25

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Originally Posted by Mollers

But Chris,with all due respect, you have no experience of anything other than that that you have chosen to put on your boat. Raymarine is serious kit. I've done offshore delivery trips on yachts fitted with Raymarine systems and they are superb. Garmin is good stuff but, as with most things in life, there are 'horses for courses'.

true i have no experience of raymarine, or lawrence equipment but did some research, spoke with others, does everything well, easy to use, when i lost a bit thru my own fault they sent me a whole replacement cradle foc, so everything that folks said about their customer care adds up for me. If the product was crap i would say so as never backwards in coming forwards.

Mollers · 20 July 2006, 22:27

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

true i have no experience of raymarine, or lawrence equipment but did some research, spoke with others, does everything well, easy to use, when i lost a bit thru my own fault they sent me a whole replacement cradle foc, so everything that folks said about their customer care adds up for me. If the product was crap i would say so as never backwards in coming forwards.

It must be good then.

Hugh Jardon · 20 July 2006, 23:05

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Originally Posted by Mollers

It must be good then.

Im a happy pieman

its done 1000 mls and 65 hours and all ok so far

Mollers · 21 July 2006, 06:57

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

Im a happy pieman

its done 1000 mls and 65 hours and all ok so far

I would hope so!!!! That's 3 days use on an offshore yacht!

Garmin is good kit, but you have no comparisons. The fact that they replaced a bit and a other ribbers like them doesn't suddenly make them better than any other brand. I have Garmin and will replace it with Garmin but, I feel, that doesn't qualify me to 'advise' anyone as to what is 'best'.

Hugh Jardon · 21 July 2006, 07:20

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Originally Posted by Mollers

I would hope so!!!! That's 3 days use on an offshore yacht!

Garmin is good kit, but you have no comparisons. The fact that they replaced a bit and a other ribbers like them doesn't suddenly make them better than any other brand. I have Garmin and will replace it with Garmin but, I feel, that doesn't qualify me to 'advise' anyone as to what is 'best'.

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Jon Brooks · 21 July 2006, 08:03

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Yes but what Raymarine - how old? Mine has no hint of fogging at all - my mates Garmin does it occasionally - the Navman's do it all the time!!!

We have two bit of Garmin kit on the boat and one Raymarine.
All the same age.
Only the Raymarine foggs.

Whilst I agree they make some good kit IMHO it is better for the enclosed boat.
Big sailing yachts or motor cruisers not the Rib/open boat market.

Regards

codprawn · 21 July 2006, 10:59

Time will tell but my Raymarine C80 seems pretty happy on my RIB - wether it's in a Force 8 or blazing hot sunshine.

Roy Smith · 24 July 2006, 22:30

Spoke to Raymarine this morning
cant get tide arrow to work
Cant get sog and cog bearing line to work
cant get depth to work in conjuction with ST60
lots more but its seams that when you look at the demo they dont tell you that you need to buy all the adds ons to make it all work.
In my case the add ons would come to more than the E80
So judge for your self
And by the way a Jan 2005 Hand book will not show you how to set up a platium chart ?

codprawn · 24 July 2006, 22:34

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Originally Posted by Roy Smith

Spoke to Raymarine this morning
cant get tide arrow to work
Cant get sog and cog bearing line to work
cant get depth to work in conjuction with ST60
lots more but its seams that when you look at the demo they dont tell you that you need to buy all the adds ons to make it all work.
In my case the add ons would come to more than the E80
So judge for your self
And by the way a Jan 2005 Hand book will not show you how to set up a platium chart ?

What sort of addons are you talking about? You can usually download updates to flash it with.

With my C80 the only "addons" I needed were the fishfinder and the GPS module - all the multifunction devices are the same in that respect aren't they?

Roy Smith · 25 July 2006, 22:41

On an E80 if you want the Sog and Cog bearing lines to work you need the
Raymarine speedo if you want the tide arrow to work you need the depth sounder £600 or £700 extra, and speedo i dont the price. its a bit of a con to give you a Demo/simulater to play with when you switch it to real life it dont work.dont get me going about the Data bar.
Roy

Scary Des · 31 July 2006, 17:23

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Originally Posted by codprawn

............- wether it's in a Force 8 or ...........

Much experience of this then codders

codprawn · 31 July 2006, 17:39

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Originally Posted by Scary Des

Much experience of this then codders

Well considering I haven't had the boat long - have been out in some pretty bad conditions - the Loughor Estuary can be pretty demanding even when there isn't much wind. Many years ago 18 people drowned in one night in what was supposed to be calm seas!!!

http://www.rootsweb.com/~wlscfhs/shipw1.htm

Charles · 31 July 2006, 17:50

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Time will tell but my Raymarine C80 seems pretty happy on my RIB - wether it's in a Force 8 or blazing hot sunshine.

Goodness, you do take a lot of twaddle, had your Raymarine for 2 minutes and its the best thing in the world.

Actually, this whole thread is nonsensical, I have Navman, Garmin and Raymarine - they all have their merits. If you happen to have a Garmin fitted, of course you are going to say its the best etc etc (same applies to any manufacturer) you really are not going to admit to buying a load of crap now are you. There are the exceptions.

Hugh Jardon · 31 July 2006, 17:56

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Well considering I haven't had the boat long - have been out in some pretty bad conditions - the Loughor Estuary can be pretty demanding even when there isn't much wind. Many years ago 18 people drowned in one night in what was supposed to be calm seas!!!

http://www.rootsweb.com/~wlscfhs/shipw1.htm

hmmmmmmmmmmm

hopefully you have a slight advantage over the boats of 1868

or perhaps not

GED · 31 July 2006, 18:06

you really are not going to admit to buying a load of crap now are you. There are the exceptions. [/QUOTE]

YES i WILL ADMIT

......bought navman twice all failed twice now with garmin