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Old 26 February 2012, 04:22   #1
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Navigation lights ..

So the big question is .. to LED or not to LED .. that is the question, and if so does anyone recommend a particular make and model ?

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Old 26 February 2012, 04:46   #2
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NOT - what's the point?

Expensive and you won't use your boat enough to get the advantage from the additional lifespan.

How often do you use your boat at night anyway?

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Old 26 February 2012, 05:21   #3
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I've had to replace 2 led's in 3 seasons so far, at 80-90 a pop I'm wondering why I bothered...
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NOT - what's the point?

Expensive and you won't use your boat enough to get the advantage from the additional lifespan.

How often do you use your boat at night anyway?

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All good points...our boat came new three years ago with LED's and we've used them once. Both have just failed because of water ingress The backplate of the lights (Hella) was cast metal (zinc or aluminium?). When they were taken off, the backplates looked like white powder held together with, well, not very much actually. Presumably, differential metal corrosion with the SS A frame

The replacement lights now have a moulded plastic backplate and a 100 price tag
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Old 26 February 2012, 06:00   #5
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Crumbs the reliability of these LED lights really don't look like they've matured enough to be robust yet ...

And at the price compared to the "run of the mill" lighting units are massivly different too .. I'm guessing this is the sort of technology that will improve over time, but we're not quite there yet.
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Well..........I use LED nav lights on my boat and use them reasonably regularly and had no problems. They have been on my RIB for around four years without any problems so far.
They weren't even expensive ones, they cost around 60 for the set of three.
So far I have found as long as they are sealed well when connecting they seem to be fine but mine are all plastic, not sure I would rely on any zinc alloy casing for a marine light.

When I used normal incandescent types on my old RIB I found the opposite, corrosion on the lamp contacts needed cleaned regulary or they didn't work when needed.
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Lekkie and saltwater - always gonna be a loosing battle - it's a matter of time for all fittings IMO.

LED - Great looking light - very snazzy on dull days! Uses next to no power so can be left on without concern - i.e Anchor light/s or deck lights. The cost is scary. They WILL fail and when they do, you can't fix them.

Incandescent - Very bright, in a boring kind of way. Burning a lot more watts, but with a good battery this shouldn't really be a problem. Cheaper to buy. They WILL fail too, but a quick rub of sandpaper on the contacts should sort them. You can carry a few spare lamps easily - there's nothing else in them that can actually "fail".

BTW, I always checked my lighting as part of the pre-launch shakedown. Nice to know they're gonna come on that day if you need them.
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std unit change out bulb for tetra unit i can illuminate 2 leds stick it in pint of beer and leave alight 50,000 hrs awf for a pic be right back
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I LED'd my 5.4 last year as the standard Aquasignal bulbs on it used a lot of power (40w),at tickover the charging system was being pushed quite hard running them plus the 100w spotlight in dark unmarked channels and they ruined my night vision.

I did it by making my own push-in LED adapters using old bulbs and these .

They still work fine, are actually more visible than the incandescents, don't disturb my night vision quite as badly as the steaming light doesn't shine downwards onto the tubes as much and use hardly any power.

100% success, and I'm going to do the same on the Ballistic.
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simply solder to your existing cables then shrink wrap or use 3M silicoln connectors
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