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Old 10 July 2016, 17:11   #31
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Just a thought - we're not talking about ATIS rather than MMSI, are we?
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Old 10 July 2016, 17:20   #32
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As I understand it
Having gone through the process in the last 6 months.

MMSI is digital identity of boat
Boat has to be licencesed in order to gain MMSI (ship's radio licence here!)
Boat licence is based on boat owner having VHF licence (short range certificate etc).

I don't know the situation in Ireland, but in the UK the licensing of the radio equipment is completely separate from operator licensing and you don't need to have an SRC to get an MMSI.

On transfer the MMSI can either be reprogrammed if the kit allows it, or reassigned to the new owner (which generally appears to be easier).
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MMSI VHF reset?

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As I understand it
Having gone through the process in the last 6 months.

MMSI is digital identity of boat
Boat has to be licencesed in order to gain MMSI (ship's radio licence here!)
Boat licence is based on boat owner having VHF licence (short range certificate etc).
This may be different for commercial vessels.

When the boat changes ownership, the validity of the boat's licence is no longer valid, as it's based on the previous owners qualification.
Therefore, new owner, with their own vhf licence, applies for licence for new their boat, if they list DSC radio, MMSI is issued (or new owner's MMSI is re-assigned to their new boat. Opening another can of worms for their old boat's new owners).

I think "the system" is happy to ignore the problems involved in reprogramming, although it is useful in the event of your radio being stolen.

Manufacturers generally reprogramme, sometimes for free, sometimes for set fee.

Unless something's changed, there's no pre-requisite for for the owner to hold a vhf ticket before an MMSI is issued. Boat licensing & personal licensing are 2 completely separate areas. An MMSI is issued to the boat irrespective of any owner qualifications.
That's the case in the UK anyway.

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Old 10 July 2016, 17:27   #34
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In Ireland, one must hold a VHF SRC, before one can apply for "Ship's Radio Licence" (for a 6m rubber boat) in order to get MMSI
One must also pay several fees to achieve this.
Nobody said it was user friendly, although I believe the "qualified competency" for DSC applies in more than one EU state.
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In Ireland, one must hold a VHF SRC, before one can apply for "Ship's Radio Licence" (for a 6m rubber boat) in order to get MMSI

One must also pay several fees to achieve this.

Nobody said it was user friendly, although I believe the "qualified competency" for DSC applies in more than one EU state.

UK is different. Ships licence is free, it's done online & is independent of any user qualification. What happens if the boat owner isn't the user? E.g a dive club, sailing club, joint purchase by a group of friends etc.


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Yep, you have a user friendly system
We have an administrators system.

DSC handhelds cause them a lot of "distress" too, they just won't consider them at all.
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