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Old 05 September 2006, 16:30   #11
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I think the problem is the fact that it's the boat that is licensed, and not the user - it seems to confuse a lot of people! That's why you can't get either the license or the MMSI transferred, simply because the validity of the license ended when your ownership of the boat did.

Basically, ships details can be transferred to new owners, but remaining license periods cannot, and new owners cannot keep old license details etc.

Assuming she has been licensed in the past, has Tifino ever had a DSC set fitted from before you bought her? If so, she will already have an MMSI (in all likelyhood this will still be attached to her even if the licenses are invalid) in which case what you want to do is change ownership details. If she hasn't had a DSC set but has had a license, you still need to change ownership details, and then request a new MMSI (this is quite easy and can be done by e-mailing them).

The problem with having a system where all radios come out of the box is that it would mean that if you ever bought a new radio, or had one stolen, you would have to update your details with ofcom, and they would have to change them on a system. That's admin, and admin costs money! Under the current system, when I eventually get my replacement DSC set for Greyhound, I simply enter in Greyhounds MMSI, fit the set, and job done. I don't create any more work for Ofcom, they don't create any for me!

I know that in some countries, you have to present your Operators License to the Authorities to get given an MMSI for your ship, and then present that card to the radio retailer, who will program in your MMSI for you, and then and only then will they give you the set. Again, it's all more work for people that expect paying for it, but it has its merits.
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Old 12 April 2007, 18:00   #12
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Changing MMSI - sorry guys I'm easily confused

I have a rib registered in the IoM but with a MMSI number issued by Bristol.

If I sell it to a guy without a radio licence, do I

a) just inform Bristol the boat has gone and the contact details are out of date.

b) find out all the buyers details and send them too?

Secondly, I am not planning an immediate new rib purchase - can I apply for a new MMSI if I haven't got a DSC set (I have a handheld).

Will not having an MMSI affect my radio licence (I have just received my free renewed one).

Any help greatly appreciated

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Old 16 April 2007, 11:05   #13
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You can't use an MMSI number with a handheld set and as far as I understand it, your operators licence is still current because it licences YOU to operated licenced equipment. The equimpent licence (ship's licence) is just for the equipment.

Now Jimbo's going to point out that I was asleep on Saturday, wasn't listening and just got all that wrong!
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Old 16 April 2007, 12:13   #14
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a) just inform Bristol the boat has gone and the contact details are out of date.
a) is the correct number. The MMSI applies to the boat, not you. On the old paid for licrnces there was a tear off section to return when you sold the boat, where you put the new owners details. I assume you do that on line now. A bit like selling a car and handing over the registration documents.

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Secondly, I am not planning an immediate new rib purchase - can I apply for a new MMSI if I haven't got a DSC set (I have a handheld).
Again. The licence goes with the boat. You should hand it over to the new owner to re-register in his name.

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Secondly, I am not planning an immediate new rib purchase - can I apply for a new MMSI if I haven't got a DSC set (I have a handheld).
Unless you have a DSC handheld (rare) a MMSI is no use untill you get a DSC radio.
You will need a portable licence for your hand held.

The confusion arises from the 2 bits of paper. You personnaly should have a SRC (Radio Opperators Licence) which says you are qualified to use a Marine VHF Radio etc.
A vessel has a Ships Radio Licence which states what radios (VHF, HF, Ham, EPIRB etc.) can be used on that vessel. It also states the vessels call sign (and MMSI if applicable).
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Old 16 April 2007, 14:24   #15
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Aren't I lucky. OFCOM have just issued me with a new lifetime licence for an old boat which would have expired naturally in July, and thats what I assumed it would do. Trouble is I need a password to cancel the MMSI and seeing as I never applied for that licence online I haven't got a password.
Now I have two licences for the same name but two different boats. Guess this is where if I need to speak to the coastguard in an emergency things might get a little confusing if they only refer to the boats name.
To clarify things I now have my MMSI and ships callsign marked above the radio so I can confirm who I am.
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Old 16 April 2007, 14:34   #16
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Old 16 April 2007, 14:36   #17
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Matt,

To tell you the truth its the one of those jobs I keep meaning to do but just haven't got round to it yet.

I'm going to work on it tomorrow and see if they can do something over the phone.
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