Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 04 March 2013, 05:37   #1
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
Make: Ballistic 7.8/SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Opti 225/Yam 85
MMSI: 235090687/235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,645
RIBase
Lowrance fuel flow meter/ tank level sender questions.

The Ep60r fuel flow meter arrived along with the N2k network kit.

1) Is it critical to mount it vertically as per instuctions as it'd be far easier on my fuel system to mount it horizontally.

2) If I get the N2k fuel sender converter, will it work on this type of fuel gauge?

__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 March 2013, 06:01   #2
RIBnet supporter
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,594
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2 View Post
The Ep60r fuel flow meter arrived along with the N2k network kit.

1) Is it critical to mount it vertically as per instuctions as it'd be far easier on my fuel system to mount it horizontally.

2) If I get the N2k fuel sender converter, will it work on this type of fuel gauge?

1, Dunno sorry.
2, Depends whether the sender is a standard resistive output, if it is, the converter will work..ish. I have the converters on my tank senders & frankly they're a waste of time (and money). Unless the boat is perfectly still & level, the readings bounce about all over the place. The result is you get constant "low fuel" warnings from the N2k system, I-Command in my case. I use the fuel flow data from the EMM in the engines to calculate fuel remaining, it's much more accurate & not subject to the boat bouncing around. Is your engine N2K compliant?

Sorry I can't be more helpful.

PD
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4: See rule#5
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 March 2013, 06:11   #3
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
Make: Ballistic 7.8/SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Opti 225/Yam 85
MMSI: 235090687/235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,645
RIBase
Actually, thats a big help-thanks Dave. I won't bother getting the gauge converter-it sounds more than a bit annoying.

The engine is n2k compatible apparently but involves some serious research so I'll stick to the fuel flow meter on both the Smartcraft and the GPS.
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 March 2013, 07:28   #4
RIBnet supporter
 
Erin's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,830
If you really want an N2K sender then I'd suggest you get one from offshore systems (OSUKL). A bit pricey but very good.

As for mounting the fuel flow meter, I don't think it will have much effect being horizontal. They usualluy advise against it to reduce the risk of air bubbles or an air lock causing a problem.
Erin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 March 2013, 11:35   #5
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,653
The fuel flow meter is spec'd to mount vertically to prevent air bubbles from pooling in the unit. It can be mounted horizontally and will be fine until you do get an air bubble in it (which, with a working system, isn't that likely, IMO.) If it must be horizontal, have the unit at the bottom of a slight U shape (i.e. run the fuel hoses upwards a bit from either side) to allow any air to escape the sender.

jky
__________________
jyasaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 March 2013, 14:06   #6
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
Make: Ballistic 7.8/SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Opti 225/Yam 85
MMSI: 235090687/235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,645
RIBase
Cheers guys.


I think I'll do without the N2k fuel sender, I was only considering it as I've got an LED fuel gauge at the moment which is quite bright and was going to replace it.
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 March 2013, 14:06   #7
RIBnet supporter
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,594
RIBase
Nos, if there's anyway to get the fuel data from the engine, that's the way I'd go. On the I-Command, you programme the size of your tank(s) into the system & tell it how many litres of fuel you have put in or if you have filled to the brim. The system then knows how much fuel it has. The engine supplies the system with constant data of how much fuel it has used (very accurate as it's the metering data from the emm/injectors) the system simply deducts the fuel used from the amount it started with & tell you how much is left. I find it accurate to the litre. I'm not sure what technology the Lowrance flow meter uses (paddle wheel?) but I can't see it being as acccurate as engine data. Paddle wheel sensors are notoriously inaccurate at low flows i.e tickover.
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4: See rule#5
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 21:51.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.