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Old 12 September 2012, 19:24   #21
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I'm on pay as you go vodafone but keep meaning to get a gifgaf contract. or similar.
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Why not just buy an ipad compatible external gps and save the hassle. Both the "bad elf gps" and "gns 1000 gps" get good reviews. I've just ordered the gns one for £78 as I was disappointed to discover that I couldn't use my iPad when on a boating holiday in France a couple of weeks ago.
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Check whether you think the iPhone/iPad are readable enough in sunlight. My iPhone certainly isn't that good and I think someone (Cookee?) said the iPad wasn't either.
Go and have a look over on YBW forums for a lot of discussion on this topic, but to sum up:

Daylight visibility of the screen on the Ipad is not very good at all and would make it an issue in direct sunlight to be any use at all.

Ipads aren't meant for the pounding of a small boat.

Only the 3G version has GPS although bed elf etc does work allegedly.

Charts are downloaded so no connection necessary.

I know for a fact that Vodafone charge for tethering, it's in settings, personal hotspot in the latest IOS 5, it isn't expensive but try and get out of it!

If you want more than occasional data 3G or GiffGaff seem to offer good deals.

To sum up:

I would have an Ipad as a stand by or very occasional plotter or get a proper made for the job item.
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Why not just buy an ipad compatible external gps and save the hassle. Both the "bad elf gps" and "gns 1000 gps" get good reviews. I've just ordered the gns one for £78 as I was disappointed to discover that I couldn't use my iPad when on a boating holiday in France a couple of weeks ago.
Even though the mobile phone networks have decided that because (as a foreign registered SIM) they cannot send you a text message to your iPad to show you the charges in France, they will not provide a data service to you over the 3G network - the iPad GPS receiver does not require a mobile network to function (although when one is present it can additionally interpolate between the tranmission towers to provide some faster position fixing at power on).

Some private flyers use the bad elf or gns bluetooth receivers because the combination of their metal dashboard/ airframe/ engine can restrict the GPS satellite signal strength being received on their iPad, but many others fly around without any additional GPS receivers well out of mobile network range.
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Old 13 September 2012, 04:16   #25
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Thanks for all the advice here

I have just been looking at the giffgaff £10 a month deal which is loads better than my current pay as you go deal.
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Old 13 September 2012, 04:47   #26
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I "Tether" (use a phone as a wifi hotspot) my ipad 1 with my misses' iphone 4 without any problems.

The ipad isn't jailbroken (yet)

Her phone is on o2 monthly contract
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o2 Thethering

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Even though the mobile phone networks have decided that because (as a foreign registered SIM) they cannot send you a text message to your iPad to show you the charges in France, they will not provide a data service to you over the 3G network - the iPad GPS receiver does not require a mobile network to function (although when one is present it can additionally interpolate between the tranmission towers to provide some faster position fixing at power on).

Some private flyers use the bad elf or gns bluetooth receivers because the combination of their metal dashboard/ airframe/ engine can restrict the GPS satellite signal strength being received on their iPad, but many others fly around without any additional GPS receivers well out of mobile network range.
Yes thanks, I realise that. I should have mentioned that I own a wifi only iPad. If you're going to have to tether you may as well have the better signal reception of the dedicated gps receiver.

When I was in France and discovered my iPad couldn't get coverage neither could my iPhone 4S for 40% of the time due to limited mobile coverage. Tethering would have been useless at that time but the external device would have worked fine.
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Yes thanks, I realise that. I should have mentioned that I own a wifi only iPad. If you're going to have to tether you may as well have the better signal reception of the dedicated gps receiver.

When I was in France and discovered my iPad couldn't get coverage neither could my iPhone 4S for 40% of the time due to limited mobile coverage. Tethering would have been useless at that time but the external device would have worked fine.
Tethering won't tell you where you are, it will only get you internet data. It might help you get a rough idea due to some clever maths but that's it - you need a GPS receiver like the Bad Elf or similar.
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