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Old 30 June 2012, 12:25   #41
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Errrm, so did mine. But kwality Hella gave me a whole new set of the upgraded version FOC. So the Germans redeemed themselves
Wish I'd known earlier. My 'quality' 'German' Hella replacements - with plastic backplates - cost me as they were out of warranty and the supplying dealer didn't want to know.
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Old 30 June 2012, 12:30   #42
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the supplying dealer didn't want to know.
He must have been English
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Old 30 June 2012, 13:23   #43
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Old 30 June 2012, 19:47   #44
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It's about saving lives dudes. Life vests have standard op procedures , so do flares and even plotters and radar. How can anybody argue the case for non standardisation of nav lights?
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It's about saving lives dudes. Life vests have standard op procedures , so do flares and even plotters and radar. How can anybody argue the case for non standardisation of nav lights?
Because IMO has already spent oodles of money on making the specs, as laid down in the colregs, Annex II if i am correct, plus a whole bunch of other technical comitees. The specs are there, just comply with them, not make a whole set of new paperwork to comply with (and push the price up)

If RYA want to promote safety, then push for all vessel operators to have certificates of competency, and make it mandatory for ALL craft to carry safety equipment, and obey the alcohol limits.

There are many posts on here where people have been killed/seriously injured/having to be rescued and not wearing lifejackets, or having basic safety equipment, or have inadequate training, but I have not seen a single post (open to be corrected) where an accident is a result of having the wrong shade of green in the sidelights (if carried even)

IMHO tackle the biggest subjects 1st, then spend money on the piddly little stuff afterwards.
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Trouble is, if you don't tackle everything at once to at least some degree,you'll end up with muppets who thinks having lime and pink nav lights with a red tinted bulb on the steaming/stern lights is acceptable because it looks nice.

Then everyone cries when they die becuase it looks like they were going backwards.
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You Sarcy Barsteward

Moral of the story is if you want quality buy German
But I wasn't trying to be sarcy but can see how it came across that way.

I actually think German quality is totally over rated especially when it comes to electronics. The Japs and Koreans are better than anyone else at electronics, probably because they are short so their eyes are closer to the circuit boards

Most of the new stuff I test at work is German and although technically ingenuous, terribly unreliable and unrobust. The amount of kit that has somehow passed QA at the factory yet would read 0 when the user was being nuked to within an inch of their life never ceases to amaze me. The most reliable kit is what's left of the UK made kit, some of which is 40 years old
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What a farce, have these people not got better things to do, who is paying for all this nonsense, whether you are one lumen in or out on your port light means nothing if you are a tool behind the helm With no regulation about who can jump in and drive off a leisure boat without any qualification, one would think a lumen is the least of their worries. I wonder if these people go home at night thinking, Wow! I have really earned my wages today?

A light with a perfect bulb means nothing in a dirty crappy casing

Are these LED lights costly option to go with?
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