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Old 12 January 2014, 09:27   #21
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I love my SH 851, had it a year now and easily the best handheld I've had, I don't use an epirb so always have it on my when I'm by myself.
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Old 12 January 2014, 12:14   #22
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Amazes me that still despite lots of bad outcomes the lack of LJ in comericial single handed fishing is common.
The industry has been told to sort its self out and either increase the use of LJs on open decks or reduce the incidence of fatalities associated with people going over the side by Jan 2015 or the MCA will consider taking action.

MAIB published three incidents last week. The DSC one sounds like something that could happen on any day of the week to a wooden boat. The message that needs to get out is that holding the red button for 3 seconds is quicker than transmitting even a partial but useless mayday. That would be a VERY useful exercise to do on a VHF course... get 2 students with a stop watch. Student 1 is to use the DSC set. Holds the button for 3-5 seconds then would start a voice message on 16 but perhaps at 8 seconds the instructor would tell them to stop.

Student 2 is to just go straight to voice. At the same 8 seconds instructor tells them to stop.

Then compare what information they got out there in that short time.

In the case that prompted the safety flyer the skipper's message repeated Stornoway Coastguard three times in his message, but his own boat name only once. Easy with hind sight to point out that it doesn't really matter who you are calling with your mayday so if time was really pressed Stornoway Coastguard and his boat name 3 times would have been a better solution, or even better to do Stornoway, then Boat name then position.

Actually I suspect a position with no name would have been more valuable.

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Depends on the unit, and how you activate it.

On my SH VHF, there's a menu you can select (after hitting the distress button, but prior to transmitting, I think), that will transmit a terse message about what the problem is. Pre-canned messages are undesignated, fire, flooding, collision, grounding, capsizing, sinking, adrift, abandoning, piracy, and MOB (yeah; had to look those up.)

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I do wonder how many times a DSC Alert is sent without designating the distress. I've always thought it made the process more complex. If I was designing it I'd allow you to scroll the menu while holding the button. Or I'd send an undesignated and then prompt for a type.
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Old 12 January 2014, 12:51   #23
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I love my SH 851, had it a year now and easily the best handheld I've had, I don't use an epirb so always have it on my when I'm by myself.
I'd never really thought of DSC on a handheld VHF until reading this thread, I must admit that I like the idea of one on my belt whilst being by myself or in bad weather conditions.
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Old 12 January 2014, 14:26   #25
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I am looking to get a handheld soon and have narrowed my search down to the Icom 91D, and Standard Horizon HX 851.Apart from Icom's 60ish cheaper price tag, I can't see any real difference.
Help !!....Any advice greatly appreciated fellas
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Sorry the SH 851 is 60ish cheaper ........this is obviously doin my head in!!
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I am looking to get a handheld soon and have narrowed my search down to the Icom 91D, and Standard Horizon HX 851.Apart from Icom's 60ish cheaper price tag, I can't see any real difference.
Help !!....Any advice greatly appreciated fellas
Ian, I got the icom 91d for Xmas if you want to have a look at one, I think Force4 still have a good deal on, you get a 2nd battery with it
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I look at it as my Nautilus Lineline DSC equipped handheld radio is for me (I carry it while scuba diving, and sometimes put it in my pocket on the boat), but my main fixed mount boat radio with DSC is for me and OTHER PEOPLE. What I mean by that is if someone on a kayak, scuba diving, or in another boat needs assistance and triggers a DSC alert, my Icom radio will output their coordinates to my Garmin chart plotter, so hopefully I may assist them. Helping others on the water is important, as I never know if one day I will require assistance.

It would be nice if ALL handhelds came with GPS but the majority do not here in the USA.
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Thanks Chris.......another good reason to call round
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