ICOM m601 flush mount kit

arn.george · 23 February 2005, 17:22

I have just purchased the flush mount kit, despite cost (well if you are going to buy the radio why stop there

). This does not include any rubber seal/ gasket to place inbetween consol and radio - surely for waterproofing this would be included - especially at £25 for two pieces of ss and a couple of bolts. By the way, anyone want to buy a M601 mounting bracket - unused!

stevetheboat · 23 February 2005, 17:32

OooEr Missus,

me thinks this is one for Mr Brookes to deal with!

arn.george · 23 February 2005, 17:33

Well that is what I thought - has he calmed down yet!

stevetheboat · 23 February 2005, 17:37

I think he`s probably away at the Oirish Show at the mo - but I`ve no doubt he`ll be back.

gingercoastie · 24 February 2005, 09:03

On my Humber I used Silkaflex to glue my M601 in as the fiberglass was too thick on he console for the flush mount kit.

It was totally waterproof and removable (just with a bit of effort)

stevetheboat · 24 February 2005, 09:25

Yeh Ginger thats exactly what we do - with or without the flush fitting kit.

In the very unlikely event that you may need to remove it you can carefully slip a very sharp craft blade down the rear face and cut through the sealant.

But a nice neoprene gasket would be nice when you buy the flush mount kit or like the Navman units build in rubber gasket on the rear face of the radio!

Cant cost the earth?

Mr Brookes?

Jono · 24 February 2005, 10:47

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Originally Posted by stevetheboat

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In the very unlikely event that you may need to remove it you can carefully slip a very sharp craft blade down the rear face and cut through the sealant.

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Which, having just had to do it on my Humber... is an absolute twat of a job!!!

Mark Halliday · 24 February 2005, 13:45

My flush mount M421 now sports a chunk of mouse mat as a seal.

It works nicely with the cut-down surface bracket, which is now acting as a flush mount fixing.

Now, what else can I go and bodge?

Dave B · 24 February 2005, 14:09

How about using Dow Corning (Silicone sealant)

stevetheboat · 24 February 2005, 15:53

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Originally Posted by Jono

Which, having just had to do it on my Humber... is an absolute twat of a job!!!

aaaahh aaaahh

But is this a problem with the radio? - or is it a problem with the boat?

Jono · 24 February 2005, 16:03

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Originally Posted by stevetheboat

aaaahh aaaahh

But is this a problem with the radio? - or is it a problem with the boat?

Neither...just the monkey who fitted it! Must have been on commission to use as much Sikaflex as possible...little scrote...

arn.george · 27 February 2005, 09:19

Would the use of sikaflex have any bearing on Icom's warranty? May consider this approach - as long as I don't need to remove the radio again.

Rogue Wave · 27 February 2005, 09:53

I should hope not! But remember the radio itself is water resistant, I think for one metre of water for thirty minutes. So the sealent should actually be there to stop the wiring and rest of the cosole from getting wet.

I cant think of a rib manufaturer who doesn't use silicone to seal stuff implanted in the Console and with the absense of a radio/console sealing gasket then you don't have a lot of choice.

It would be fair to say however that I am not in a position to comment on what and will not invalidate the warranty

Jon Brooks · 01 March 2005, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by arn.george

I have just purchased the flush mount kit, despite cost (well if you are going to buy the radio why stop there

). This does not include any rubber seal/ gasket to place inbetween consol and radio - surely for waterproofing this would be included - especially at £25 for two pieces of ss and a couple of bolts. By the way, anyone want to buy a M601 mounting bracket - unused!

For all the marine radio's that we sell we get very very few requests or questions about a gaskit.

As the radio is fully water proof it is not needed to keep the water off the set.
Most, as you have seen from the comments, use something like Sikaflex.

Regards

Lester McCarthy · 01 March 2005, 14:09

Suggest you get some 2/3mm expanded rubber foam and do what I have done - cut a hole in it . It comes in sheets and can be had for pennies from a suitable rubber maunfacturer like Portmere Rubber in Southampton. We all know that if you use something wet and moist and comes out of a tube you will be stuck when you want to remove the radio - which of course we all do at winter lay-up time.

Cheers

L

David Hickman · 01 March 2005, 20:35

My 601 is flush mounted using Sikaflex as the seal. It gets a good soaking all year round and so far is 100% waterproof.

Matt · 01 March 2005, 21:41

That makes my feel very happy knowing I'm not the only person fkkd by sikaflex. Some nobba stuck my trim tabs on with it, I'm gonna have to tie the fkkn tab to bugle billy, and the boat/trailer to the patrol and pull fkkn hard.

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Originally Posted by Jono

Which, having just had to do it on my Humber... is an absolute twat of a job!!!

arn.george · 07 March 2005, 17:07

Jon,
Thank you for your comments regarding the gasket – My point was not to keep water off the set, which is waterproof (my main reason for buying it, and very pleased I am!), but to keep my console dry I will need to seal around the radio. As suggested, a piece of rubber is only a few pence. The flush mount kit is £25.

Surely it would make sense to include an expanded rubber gasket or similar. I do not want to fix my radio with sikaflex (although might make it theft proof – although I suppose they will take the whole boat instead! :

) as it is likely there will be a need to take it out for some reason in the future. It just seems to me that a flush mount kit should include a waterproof gasket.

With regards to connecting to the garmin 182c and the phono plugs – do they need to be grounded – your previous email seemed to indicate that this was not necessary – “It is a good idea to take a feed from the black lead of the Garmin to the outer of the Phono plugs.”

Is this the case? Thanks in advance

Jon Brooks · 07 March 2005, 22:11

I would suggest that you do make an earth/ground conection.
We have a had a couple of problems where, due to something strange with the boats wiring, if it is not conected no position is displayed on the radio.
Once the earth/ground is made the position appears.

So to be on the safe side make it.

I will pass the comments re a gasket up the line.
It is unlikely to change as I mentioned this is the first time I have been asked for this in at least 4 years.
Although I have said unlikely, stranger things have happened.

I hope that helps a bit.

Regards

arn.george · 08 March 2005, 06:53

Thank you Jon