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Old 06 May 2012, 06:19   #41
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For the record, this is where I got mine from & it IS genuine. Though the price has shot up in the last 12 months. I paid 57.99 inc postage in May last year.
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Sim cards (pay as you go) are disconnected by the provider if unused for 3-6 months (providers vary) so over winter they often expire. They're then hard to reset both with the provider and tracker.

Sim needs voicemail switched off or they don't work.

Some units only work with some providers.

Garmin unit has no sim, can be hard wired and also importantly not only texts but emails any number of addresses. MOST importantly it texts and emails when turned off or disconnected from power source!

Plus it's a retail unit that is far superior to all the others in useability terms!!!!
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@HUMBER P4VWL: sounds nice. Had a look at the device and the app. The credits are very good, but..........
Costs 200, minus 50 subscription for the first year and after that 50/year.
That's quite a lot more than the TK102 with a prepaid SIM.
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@HUMBER P4VWL: sounds nice. Had a look at the device and the app. The credits are very good, but..........
Costs € 200, minus € 50 subscription for the first year and after that € 50/year.
That's quite a lot more than the TK102 with a prepaid SIM.
170 on line

Agreed slightly more. But for between 50-100 more, its not even a tank of fuel on a 6m rib. Most ribs on here are worth 5k-45k. They're worth looking after!!!!

Get something tested to retail production standards, by a global marine electronics beand that is well respected.

Plus get a device that tells you when it's turned off, power cut etc and doesn't run out of credit or get disconnected.

All IMHO!!
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Sim cards (pay as you go) are disconnected by the provider if unused for 3-6 months (providers vary) so over winter they often expire. They're then hard to reset both with the provider and tracker.

Sim needs voicemail switched off or they don't work.

Some units only work with some providers.

Garmin unit has no sim, can be hard wired and also importantly not only texts but emails any number of addresses. MOST importantly it texts and emails when turned off or disconnected from power source!

Plus it's a retail unit that is far superior to all the others in useability terms!!!!
Paul...I've seriously looked at the Garmin device and I'm sure it's brilliant but, in the end, like with most things, price has to be a consideration. I'd like a Redbay, but...

I've had my Xenun tracker now four years: total cost 40 for the tracker, 5 the hard wire lead, 5 postage, 2.49 iPhone App, O2 SIM top up 20...total cost 72.49. Sweet.

Just to clarify a couple of things from my own experience:

* If I didn't plan on asking my boat where it was anytime in 3-6 months then I'd have been thinking I didn't need a tracker or it'd been a waste of money.
* My (O2) tracker SIM has voicemail switched on. If it's a problem, I've not noticed it.
* From reading the forums the real deal Xenun tracker works with any UK mobile provider (why shouldn't it - it's a industry standard protocol). I've read that some clones don't but that's just hearsay.
* The Xenun tracker - and the clones for that matter - can all be hard wired.
* The Xenun TK102 doesn't have a disconnect/turn off warning. The Xenun TK103-2 at $103 does however as well as notification for engine start, low oil level and other stuff.

Not sure what you mean by the Garmin being a "retail unit" and "it's far superior to all the others in usability terms".
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You don't need to ask the Garmin where it is. That's the beauty. It's on perm and tells me what I want it to tell me when it occurs. No news is great news. (though I can ask, and also track history).

Plus on a 15 min sleep setting it lasted 4wks on a battery sat in a geofence!

Agreed re price. Re retail comp, Garmin is massive and the app on the phone illustrates their investment. You can draw the geo fences on it, turn each one on and off. You can draw ten, each with up to 6 corners. You can have different phone numbers and email for each geofence, all done with simple sliders etc

The spent on the app creation and web site shows in its usability. This only possible from a large company selling enough units.

Agreed the actual internals may not be far different, but that's just like a redbay and a valiant.

Horses for courses. Great all options get a good review by real users on here for readers to decide.

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You don't need to ask the Garmin where it is. That's the beauty. It's on perm and tells me what I want it to tell me when it occurs. No news is great news. (though I can ask, and also track history).
Xexun does the same, it can be set up to ring fence or alarm on set speed. It can also report to a tracking website so you can see it in real time on google maps. Mine is set on "ring fence" it just sits there & does nowt unless it moves 250m from its current position.

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Plus on a 15 min sleep setting it lasted 4wks on a battery sat in a geofence!
The xexun lasts about 4 days on its own internal battery. Mine is hardwired into the Optima house battery, so will last yonks. The Xexun also sends a warning text when it's internal battery starts to drop to around 50% charge.

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You can draw the geo fences on it, turn each one on and off. You can draw ten, each with up to 6 corners. You can have different phone numbers
Xexun not quite as comprehensive here, it will report to 5 different phone numbers, drawing geofences is a doddle with the 2.49 iphone app, you literally drag the map boundaries to where you want em. Setting speed alarms is as easy, using the app.

The xexun doesn't email though. I'm not sure that this is an issue, as you are relying on another link in the chain(email server) if your baby goes AWOL, I'm more than happy to have a text message which is more immediate & gets my attention. Also if abroad, i'd have data roaming switched off so email would be useless anyway.


No doubt, the Garmin unit will probably be better built & have the backup of Garmin, I have had Garmin gear for years & can't fault either the kit or the service, I've just had a Montana swapped under warranty, no questions or quibbles. That said, the xexun does what it says on the tin & does it very well for the money, I dare say that had the Garmin unit been out when I bought the xexun, I'd have given it a good looking at.
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Thank you all for the input. I'm off to find the best deal.
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Last point. How big is the unit?

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