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Old 14 December 2012, 16:31   #1
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Handheld VHF - other uses

Do any of the handheld marine VHF radios work on other frequencies that would allow unlicensed use?

Have not done my VHF yet so don't know the answer, but I presume that marine licensed radios cannot be used for ship to shore chit chat? Nearly home dear, put the kettle on etc...
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Old 14 December 2012, 17:02   #2
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Icom used to do the M87, which was a Marine VHF which also had the PMR frequencies. Looks like it could still be available: Icom M87, Marine VHF Radio Equipment | Mailspeed Marine

Otherwise to my knowledge, most marine VHF's only do the marine frequencies. As such, you should follow the marine licensing rules and regs when using them - general chit chat not allowed, should only be used on a licenced vessel and it's tender (shorebased stations should have a separate licence and can only use a very limited number of channels).
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Thanks. That's what I generally thought. Shame though that the one option for this would appear to be quite a price premium and not available on a dsc set.
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My understanding was if the handheld was licenced with Ofcom as a transportable (callsign starts with a T) then it could be used on a vessel that did not have a ships Vhf licence.

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should only be used on a licenced vessel and it's tender.
I always have my handheld with me but not all the boats I skipper will have a licence (some don't have a fixed radio).

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There are some alternatives -

Buy a seperate unit, that means you have a second way of talking to someone ashore - no bad plan?

Use a Ham Radio that is capable of transmitting on both the PMR and CG frequencies. This is bound to be technically illegal, and the set up will take a bit of time to programme chanels. But its quite cheap: example -
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I'd say it would be cheap enough to make that an extra set for talking to the Mrs but putting 16 and mayb e any other channels you normally work on it for main set failure would be a not too crazy option. Not waterproof AKAIK.

Use your mobile to tell the misses to put the kettle on...
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If you only want to contact your wife can't you get a pair of walkie talkies?i've not used them so i don't anything about range or cost.just a idea!
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Simon thats what I meant by the PMR stuff (444Mhz). They only will do 3-5km line of sight (so actually if the missus is watchin for you she should be able to see you and figure out to put the kettle on)

Cost is low.

Wouldn't rely on it for safety even if the missus is saying she'll call tnhe CG for you. The day a well known poster on here took me out in his shiny rotten WAFI with one of these PMR sets and his missus on the other end only for the rudder to snap first time he turned a corner crossing the channel in the Forth ... she had gone for a coffee... At least the 1billion ton oil tanker that was headed towards us would have known who he'd crushed to death if we'd had proper VHF!
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Chris - thanks for pointing that out! I was typing as I was falling asleep last night, so my reply was slightly badly phrased... But even with a transportable licence for the handheld radio, it should still only be used on a vessel/tender, and not by the wife at home in the galley!

I agree on PMR not being highly useful, for various reasons. We used them when I had my first RIB as a teenager, and even within Poole Harbour range was dreadful, many sets don't handle getting wet, and because most are designed for use on land we found them hard to hear over the outboard. But that was 10 years ago, with relatively early PMR's, so things might have changed a bit now.

I'd always have some form of VHF onboard both in case I have an emergency, and so I can hear broadcasts from others, but for the original question, a cheap throw away mobile phone sounds like the best, and probably the cheapest, option for contacting the wife!
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I have a vhf dsc licence(less than 100)but before i did i always carried one under the the seat for emergencies worry about not having licence later.sorry you'll have to light a fire and wave a blanket over if you want to order a brew!
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Completely agree Paul, should only be used when in a boat / tender, not from home.

Text message is probably the easiest and cheapest way to communicate with home. You can get a PAYG phone for under 20.

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Chris - thanks for pointing that out! I was typing as I was falling asleep last night, so my reply was slightly badly phrased... But even with a transportable licence for the handheld radio, it should still only be used on a vessel/tender, and not by the wife at home in the galley!
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