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Old 26 September 2007, 11:14   #31
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Sony... there is a brand that has gone to the dogs.

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Depends what on - their TVs are still great - as are their video cameras etc but the rest of the stuff is shite - it doesn't help that they go for all the copy protection etc which stops you doing anything!!!
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Old 26 September 2007, 11:24   #32
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At work we did a project with DSG to take in all their returns and process them at one of our factories before selling them by the pallet to the trade. We got something like 40,000 pieces of kit over 6 months and when we looked into repair etc it just was not worth it, its all cheaply manufactured junk that simply is not designed to come apart once the robot has stuck it together in the factory.

(can you tell the whole project was a nightmare, also DSG are a load of bankers! )

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Old 28 September 2007, 04:32   #33
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I am sure they would sell far more if they stuck the Yaesu badge on them!!!
Maybe and maybe not.

In the early 90's Yaesu brought the "Standard" name from its owners in the US.

Both Vertex Standard and Standard Horizon were very well known brands in the US.
The US market is huge and many companies look to the US before the rest of the world.

With this in mind the brands were split.

To give you and idea of how important the US market is look at this.
Whilst at Icom, Icom UK was the second largest distributor, second to the US.
At the time of the M1V the US sold as many of these in a month as we sold in a year!!!
So as you can see it is a very important market to all companies.

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Old 28 September 2007, 18:06   #34
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I know the UK market is tiny BUT a bit of genuine badge engineering wouldn't go amiss - they do it in the amateur radio market and those old duffers are a dying breed!!!
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Old 16 October 2007, 18:26   #35
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Also, I have a handful of HX-270s at a sale price:
http://shop.malthouse-marine.com/ind...d=103&parent=0
85.00 inc vat and UK delivery.
As our spare handheld died recently I took advantage of Malthouse's offer. I must say very impressed with the service, delivery by return and a useful pouch thrown in free (for rib.net I think). Many thanks.

I'd admit, I bought this on recommendations here coupled with the low price compared with ICOM. Having just got my hands on this, it is obvious that this is a very nicely put together bit of kit. I'll try out properly on the water this weekend.
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Old 17 October 2007, 04:02   #36
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Having just got my hands on this, it is obvious that this is a very nicely put together bit of kit. I'll try out properly on the water this weekend.
Thanks for that, I am delighted that you are impressed with it, they are a great radio and even commercial users have a hard time breaking them.

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I know the UK market is tiny BUT a bit of genuine badge engineering wouldn't go amiss - they do it in the amateur radio market and those old duffers are a dying breed!!!
I've still got my Yaesu, does that make me an old duffer

Seriously though, I would have thought Yaesu could have changed the name to Yaesu Horizon or something. I didn't know that Standard Horizon stuff was made by Yaesu untill John defected. Otherwise everything I bought several years ago for Kohaku would have been their kit.
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Standard kit does seem to be very robust. I have two of the handhelds and like them very much. They get bashed around, one even sat in a locker full of water for several days and still worked fine after! Unfortunaly my fixed set, which I installed about 6 months ago has recently stopped working. I have just removed it from the boat and will be sending it back to Standard this afternoon. I do hope their customer service is as good as they say it is!
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I have just removed it from the boat and will be sending it back to Standard this afternoon. I do hope their customer service is as good as they say it is!
I am sure you will be impressed, if you do have any problems give me a shout.

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that will do nicely.....

...just rec'd my HX270e, lightning delivery and a good price - impressed with the build quality and it works just fine, you can't beat a chunky handful!!
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