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Old 27 November 2005, 12:17   #11
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But what we are talking about here with Icoms (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that they are identical units - i have searched high and low on the icoms websites of the uk / america / japan and I can find no evidence that there is any difference what so ever in these units as they are all interchangeable from international to us channel groups with a simple press and hold of a button on the front panel (in fact I have accidentally switched both of my Icoms to US channels several times)
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Old 27 November 2005, 12:29   #12
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the Icom 32A is $179 in Canada
we have a couple of Icom M1V handhelds great radios
I've had them submerged a few times and they still work fine
there are two different size batteries for them I like the larger
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Old 27 November 2005, 12:44   #13
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Hi Pete 7
If it’s a case of flicking a switch to international channels it must work. I wouldn’t be too worried about using it in a real bad situation would you?

If Jon Brooks can supply one at under £70 I would buy one of him today! Come on Jon what do you say......
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Icom are good kit but forget any UK Waranty if you buy it in the US!
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... (in fact I have accidentally switched both of my Icoms to US channels several times)
Yeh, me too. Isn't that a fekkin pain?
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From where I stand on this yes the hardware is rather similar, but the programming is different and the tests to be approved are also different.
There is also the support issue, this all costs.

The test for compliance are rather steep and expensive here and the specifications on the frequencies are also different.
I will admit that most of the VHF frequencies are common world wide but the uses vary. There is also the issue of frequency modulation and tolarences. I could power up an old spark HF set and be heard on it, but it would radiate over the whole band - hence why they are not used except in dire times.

As for the hardware well look at it like a PC, yes you can buy the bits and build one yourself and write the code - in that case my I recomend the RSGB foundation course http://www.rsgb.org.uk
You could buy the same box in varous places in the world but the software options are different.
As for service support sorry you get what you pay for.
If you look at all the players models you will notice a difference between UK/ EU and other markets.

I'm not an Icom employee before you ask, once did some work with them for PMR when I working in that industry.
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It would seem that I have opened up a right can of worms with this thread!!!:-))
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Not half the can of worms you would have opened up if it was a (US-imported) DSC set you were considering!
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the great debate concerning this topic.

After reading with great interest all the posts, on balance I have decided to wait until I get back to the UK to make my Icom purchase.

I do not wish to operate a radio illegally in British waters no mater how much the saving maybe here in the USofA.

Thanks once again.
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Sorry Guy's I have been away.

Just to clarify the points.

We and other make our kit to meets different needs.
The US type approval route is much easier than that in the EU.
They do not have to worry about CE marking as we do here.

The M31 and M32 look very simular but internally are very different.
Also the channels are very different.
We don't use weather channels like that have in the US.
The US dont use M1 (37a) and M2 (P4) as we do here in the UK.

We are the only Icom company to offer 3 year warranty.
We do not support products brought in the US.

As Richard mentioned DSC is different again.
The US are only just starting to use Class D as we do here.
The mainly use Class F or SC101.
Both are a lower standard to Class D.

Ok the legal stuff.
You must, by law, use the radio euipment approved by your country of origin.
If you have a US set here in the UK and you are not from the US or have a US flag vessel you are can be in serious trouble.

You are in fact committing two offences.
First, having the euipment available for use.
Second, using it.

Both carry a fine of about £5000, confiscation of the radio and maybe your vessle.
You can also face 18 months inside!

Hope that helps a bit.

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