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Old 04 December 2004, 19:20   #1
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Garmin blue charts

Any one know where you can hire,beg steal or borrow blue charts.
I have one for the south coast but need temporally one for the east
coast, just to bring a boat back from Levington marina (Ipswich) to
East Cowes Christmas week.
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Old 05 December 2004, 07:14   #2
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thats a cheapy way if I may so so. Garmin went to enormeous lenghths so that you could not do this- and I fully support them. This is how it works-

you BUY a Garmin GPS or you BUY Mapsource
You install Mapsource ( v. 6.5)
You send off your serial number and they give you a customer code
They give you free unlock codes for two areas that you specify- but it is
all tied to YOU and your serial number. These areas are pretty large and for normal oprations easily cover requiements.
By accepting this you are signing up not to infringe their copyright . If you
start asking on a forum such as this "for other unlock codes FOC" you will be
leave yourself open to prosecution.

If you want a temporray chart - best buy admiralty charts. If you want that on the Garmin GPS- buy Fugawi maping software and export to the Garmin.

I detest infringment such as this , as it ultimately destroys the service offered , and quite frankly why should other people have to subsidise YOU?

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I also agree that piracy is wrong - however how many people out there can TRUTHFULLY say they don't have a single piece of unlicenced software, music or video/dvd? Very few I would say!!!!
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I detest infringment such as this , as it ultimately destroys the service offered , and quite frankly why should other people have to subsidise YOU?
How about if someone lends Philip their Garmin GPS with the East Coast chart on for a week or so? That would do the job, with no copyright infringement

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Surely all Philip needs to 'Borrow' is a Garmin chip with the East Coast data.

If you buy the chips seperatly, rather than the Mapsource CD there is no registering against serial numbers etc. You just plug in and go.

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John - I would gladly lend him mine - but it needs the attenna and that is
attached to the boat. I am a bit surprised that you as webmaster seem to encourage this
Codprawn- read up about copyright please.You are not infringing copyright by downloading Mp3 , soft ect.. Its what you do with it that counts. Napster went wrong on this as they could not guarantee -that people who downloaded mp3's via their system- that this was not used commercilly.
In fact in the States , the RCA took some people to court because they considered that there was a flagrant abuse. I rememberber there was one young thing who had some 10.000 songs stored on cd's.-some of these had been used in a disco and bingo- you are guilty. I dont criticise Phil for trying but to do it on an open forum is asking for trouble.

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Surely all Philip needs to 'Borrow' is a Garmin chip with the East Coast data.

Not correct. The chip is a memory bank the you fill up via Mapource from you
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John - I would gladly lend him mine - but it needs the attenna and that is
attached to the boat. I am a bit surprised that you as webmaster seem to encourage this
Codprawn- read up about copyright please.You are not infringing copyright by downloading Mp3 , soft ect.. Its what you do with it that counts. Napster went wrong on this as they could not guarantee -that people who downloaded mp3's via their system- that this was not used commercilly.
In fact in the States , the RCA took some people to court because they considered that there was a flagrant abuse. I rememberber there was one young thing who had some 10.000 songs stored on cd's.-some of these had been used in a disco and bingo- you are guilty. I dont criticise Phil for trying but to do it on an open forum is asking for trouble.

Jonathan

Excuse me but you ARE infringing every copyright law known to man by downloading MP3s and software without paying for it!!!! Not matter what you do with it - unless you have bought the original and are emailing it to yourself!!!!

Of course because it has become more widespread it has become more acceptable but it doesn't make it right - if there is one thing I can't stand it is a hypocrite - the sort of people who criticise others for breaking the law and then do so themsleves!!!!
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John - I would gladly lend him mine - but it needs the attenna and that is
attached to the boat. I am a bit surprised that you as webmaster seem to encourage this
I expect that he's already got the antenna as he already has a Garmin GPS!

Why should it be a surprise that I encourage people to help each other out by lending them things? By borrowing and using the complete GPS there would be no need to copy any charts, and therefore no copyright infringement.

If someone posted to ask whether they could borrow a spare lifejacket for a week would you expect them to be told to go and buy one because it's important to support Crewsaver?

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Surely all Philip needs to 'Borrow' is a Garmin chip with the East Coast data.

Not correct. The chip is a memory bank the you fill up via Mapource from you
pc.

Jonathan
Sorry but you are not correct.

If you buy the Garmin blue chart chip, it has the information allready on it. I know I have one . You can also buy blank cards and the map source cd and do them yourself if your not a lazy as me . So Philip does just need to borrow a chip for the few days he is collecting his boat.

I would lend him mine and not feel any copyright laws are broken as the info is not stored on the unit, so when he has finished and gives it back he no longer has the info. Unfortunately my card is also South coast.
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