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Old 07 September 2003, 06:33   #31
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Brian,

I think you are missing the point.

Think of it this way. When everyone has finally switched to DSC sets, and there is no longer all the traffic on ch16 that we have at the moment, and all the chatter is on working channels. Anybody actually using channel 16 for a Mayday is going to stand out very well, because it will be the only voice from the speaker.

As a matter of interest, 2182 mf for the long range stuff was discontinued years agao, forcing the ships to buy Inmarsat equipment and Epirbs (and you thought a DSC was expensive), we still listen to it via a speaker on the wall, and we have taken a Mayday via it as well, from the Mulheim. So speaker watch works.

I am not trying to put anyone off calling the coastguard, and if you weant to see how the system works for yourself, go to your local coastguard ops room, or Falmouth if you are down my way, and you can talk to the experts.
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OK I will shut up now. I am happy to be called Alf Garnett but I dont want to be mistaken for King Canute as well. DSC'c are going to happen (one day). I would just like to get to the bottom of what is driving the change.
Let's continue this next time we meet, but over a beer?
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Brian,
I think you are missing the point.
No, I dont think he is. He seems to be, and quite rightly in my opinion, questioning the reasoning behind the change in systems, the benefits it may provide and the pitfalls that may or may not arise.

In my own service, we had press button/non voice contact alert systems as early as 1992. For the first year, because of technical and human shortcomings, the system was a complete fiasco which invariably required the need for radio contact. To this day, our crews still prefer the comfort factor of voice contact with a skilled operator. I realise that the introduction of DSC does have benefits and does not negate the availability of voice contact, but what does concern me is the fact that the loss of a dedicated headset watch will be a degradation in a quality service at least until most old tech VHF has disappeared from usage. The crunch will be in what the take up of DSC sets, in the leisure sector, is going to be in the next few years. And I do like that earlier comment from GC about the 'sod em, lets stop it now' lobby within the coastguard. That's a good attitude for a public servant to have. Not.

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'sod em, lets stop it now' lobby within the coastguard

Yes, that one just slipped out.
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Brian, continue to call your passage plan to the Coastie. I bet you've never had a bad response from them.
A good few years ago now, I made a trip from North Uist to St.Kilda in a SIB. I called the coastguard once on the water and he said, "Don't you go anywhere, I need some details!". He also realised I'd be unable to call in my arrival because of the distance. He insisted I call Kilda Radar on arrival and get them to call him. The same for the return journey.
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I was refering to the "Management"
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GC, I hope they don't read Ribnet, you'll be sacked.
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More time on the boat then.
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That XM unit good then Jahno? Was having a butchers at it on one of the online chandlers earlier. Was also looking at the (more expensive) Silva S15 unit, which looks superior, but then it does cost 300.
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