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Old 22 August 2004, 03:19   #11
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Originally Posted by brucehawsker
You are, of course, correct. I meant that I would be viewing the map, and simultaneously looking at the course. The keys to me are depth - am I going to hit anything - speed - and is my GPS course what I am trying to achieve given where I am on the map.
have you thought about doing the new RYA Intermediate course coastal cruising by day , as this will teach you how to plot a course without hitting anything , and will cover electronic navigation, i have a combined plotter
fish finder on my rib and you can change the numbers to large screen if you want, i know it does not answer your question, but you may find the course the natural progression to your ribbing i use Garmin and have done for many years , if you want to see the set up on my rib give me a call and i will go over it with you
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Old 22 August 2004, 03:41   #12
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Hi Tim,

Just did two days with Dave Robson from Yarmouth including revision of PBII and some day trip planning / GPS etc. Very helpful. Not sure what intermediate covers that we did not do. Please feel free (you or anyone else!)to 'sell' me an intermdiate course.

Was planning to do Advanced on our boat in the Spring having had a winter to play on our new RIB.

Have to sort electronics before then, though!

Am down South this week in Lymington. If you are across the water any time, please give us a ring and I would love to chat / buy you a beer, whatever.

Have PM'ed my mobile number to you.



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Old 22 August 2004, 04:05   #13
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Originally Posted by swginn
Another solution is this, the SC5000 Smartcraft display, but this may be a bit overkill!! Anybody know how much it is?
I am led to believe I have the only SC5000 in the country although I think the full retail is over £1000! (probably why!)
Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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Old 22 August 2004, 04:19   #14
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Very helpful comments.

Smartcraft gauges are a bit small to see at speed for oldies like us??

Similarly the Raymarine 435 with 6" screen would be a problem with simultaneous large numerical display. £660 on

The Garmin 276C is similar, but priced at £500.

I like the proposed solution of

1. the Lowrance 6000C as full GPS colour plotter, and
2. the b/w Lowrance M52i as essentially a graphical depth finder combined with overlay data of Depth, SOG and COG, all three displayed in large letters each .7" high on its 4" diagonal screen. This latter unit has integral GPS aerial, a low res map which we will probably never use, and a low power but perfectly adequate sonar to give us an idea of the bottom structure, and a depth figure. It is only £219.

*The two of them are effectively then stand alone, although I hope the NMEA will enable us to display a large Depth on the 6000C if we need it in very bright conditions in harbour.
*We have a back up GPS in case one fails (as well as real charts and compass)

A few inevitable questions:

a) do we interface both GPS's to the DSC radio?
b) is the 6000C with its 6.5" diagonal screen the correct solution? Or am I going to regret not paying another £290 for the 10.4" 7000C. Would that larger one be cumbersome?

I intend to mount the big GPS on top of the centre of the dual console, with the M25i depth/fish finder on top to its left, and to its right directly in front of the helm the non-electronic ocean compass. The compass will be flush mounted, the other two on their twist and tilt stands.

Cheers and thanks

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Old 22 August 2004, 06:48   #15
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Just another brief angle on the same topic.
I have a Raymarine C-series that has exactly this "issue" of wanting
as much screen real estate as possible for the maps.
I ended up keeping my trusty old garmin 76 handheld on the side
simply because I did not take it out and realised that one of the screens in the Garmin software does pretty much what is referred to in this thread:
Large SOG, COC, distance to next WP etc.. along with
a rudimentary X-track error display that is easy to
view at a glance.
Pretty good combo albeit the WPs and routes in the main display
obviously needs to get duplicated in both units.
(have an NMEA connection in the boat for this)
I guess you could argue whether it is a good idea to have a
separate GPS receiver regardless...backup=good but more things
to keep updated etc...

ah well, the usual FWIW, YMMV

all the best
Janne A.

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