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Old 07 December 2011, 16:19   #21
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Ok so your saying a diver showing signs of DCS is a pan pan ?? get real !!!
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Old 07 December 2011, 17:13   #22
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In UK we are told to tell people by the RNLI - a MOB is a Mayday . if you manage to get the person aboard it can always be downgraded.

The RNLI would rather have the best chance in recovering a live person and not a body.

They have been incidents that people have died after going over aboard being only 1 mile from RNLI station, any delay could cost life's.

The Advice if Sailing short handed is press the RED button, if you have time do voice follow up. Keep sight of MOB. A well done distress call is out in 30 secs.

It starts the gears in motion at Lifeboat station.

Crew Page - Boat Launch - Travel time to location. Where I sail this could be 20 minutes, 40 to 70 mins for helicopter to get on station.

An early Mayday could save a life, I usally have on my procedure card. How to operate the Radio etc.

Don't be scared in asking for assistance in UK, they rather know your in trouble sooner and in daylight! Makes tasking resources easier.


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Not even mentioned the effect of cold shock on a MOB.
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I was always lead to belive that a mayday was for a (Person) or vessle/aircraft in grave or imminant danger .

regarding call signs ,,since selling my fishing boat and packing in fishing after 30 years i now only use a hand held (Transporable licence ) with the SIB , where does it say what it my official call sign is .
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i now only use a hand held with the SIB , wheres say what it my official call sign is .
That will be your T Number, that your are issued with you transportable licence...
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That will be your T Number, that your are issued with you transportable licence...
Thought so
think ill just keep using the boats name ,,, short distance i go out now at least any locals will know who it is and recognise the boat name than a load of numbers .

Like when you phone up someone and they then answer and start to reel off their telephone number , then you say is it Harry
,,yes ,,well f ing say so .
was ok when telephone numbers were 4 digits long but now they read like the Gettysburg address.
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MOB = mayday is what I was taught at the (RNLI teacher) VHF course.
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MOB = mayday is what I was taught at the (RNLI teacher) VHF course.
Seem to remember that they went to that about 15 years ago in the uk after a few m,o,b sailing incidents at the inquests it came out people were confused and unsure what type of call to make so they with made it official and regarded any MOb a mayday with the exception of been put in the water intentionally as in Diving ,,even then if they fail to surface or drift off thats a mayday.
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Ok so your saying a diver showing signs of DCS is a pan pan ?? get real !!!
Depends. If they are in pain but their neuro exam is normal, and we are transporting back to shore ourselves, then sure I would Pan Pan for an ambulance at my landing point. If they are having explosive DCS on the deck and I need a helicopter extraction or they will die, I would ask for that via a Mayday as they are in grave danger.

Really if you are communicating clearly with whatever rescue agency you've contacted it doesn't matter much. As you should be stating the nature of the problem, how severe it is, and coordinating an appropriate response. If you aren't able to communicate clearly due to poor reception or unknown reception then use any means possible to raise assistance. I definitely disagree with trying to relay MMSI numbers if your communication is spotty or inconsistent, focus on describing general location and clearly communicating coordinates.
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Ok so your saying a diver showing signs of DCS is a pan pan ?? get real !!!
Pan-Pan Medico Shirley?
End of the day we're talking semantics (or should that be b0110cks, must be the bad weather) If the coastie or anyone else for that matter hears, Mayday, pan pan, mayday relay etc, they shut up & listen.

I was taught & understood that technically "mayday" was when the boat was about to disappear from under your feet, everything else was pan pan, but like I said, semantics
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Hi PD, Pan Pan medico was taken off the Training about 8 or so years ago. We now teach Pan Pan and ask for medical assistance. However DCS once onboard O2 Administrator as carried out assesment (Symtoms etc) advise is Mayday (Grave and Imminent danger to, Vessel, Person or any other vehicle). If I were 20+ miles out I'd want a helo enroute not wait untill I was alongside.. Having been in the situation believe me you want the help soonest!!!
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