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Old 07 December 2011, 11:41   #11
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The red button is digital only! why restrict yourself to DSC equipped vessels , they could be a boat with handheld VHF 2 mins away....

But press the Red button is a good start, followed up with voice call to re enforce the message and for non-DSC vessels...

if you get it wrong, the Coastguard will guide you through any thing you missed...

Proper voice procedures ensure, message is understood by a non-English speaker.

once our local station closes - I will need to deal with aberdeen coasties - where English is second language!

Fit likely Min, over!

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Old 07 December 2011, 12:44   #12
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From April this year the Mayday call procedure has changed. You are now required to say both your MMSI number and your call sign twice. Most find it difficult to remember all the elements so you can download a copy of the new call procedure in A5 format. Better to know that not to know!

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If I ever need to make a mayday call the only important thing to me will be my position and happy to get a good ticking off afterwards for using the wrong practice.
Sorry, but that's just sloppy.

If you're ever in a position when you need to make a Mayday call (ie grave and imminent danger), I suggest you should do everything you can to help people rescue you.

It isn't hard. There is plenty of good advice coming out of this thread. If your life is at stake (and the lives of other people who are out in the boat with you) - why wouldn't you want to give them the best chance of survival?
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Sorry, but that's just sloppy.

If you're ever in a position when you need to make a Mayday call (ie grave and imminent danger), I suggest you should do everything you can to help people rescue you.

It isn't hard. There is plenty of good advice coming out of this thread. If your life is at stake (and the lives of other people who are out in the boat with you) - why wouldn't you want to give them the best chance of survival?
You are getting this backwards. The most important element to summon help by any means possible as the ship is on fire or sinking. (Otherwise it should have been a Pan-pan)

The MMSI is gravy. Nice to add if you can in ideal circumstances but in many cases not likely to add much to the efforts to find and extract you and your passengers. The MMSI is a string of numbers which could with iffy communications be misunderstood as position information. When in doubt Lat/long takes precedence over MMSI.

In this country our own Coast Guard only got universal digital capacity in the past couple years. In many countries it doesn't yet exist on the ground. So emphasizing the MMSI is misplaced IMHO. I would also add that most recreational vessels in this country don't even have call signs either. The requirement to get one for domestic voyages was relaxed many years ago.
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Ok so mayday is ONLY for fire or sinking!! I think NOT sorry but you are very wrong there
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Ive printed my MMSI Number and Call Sign onto a sticky label strip and stuck it onto my console, as I would not remember them in an emergency.
I also have an engraved plastic lable stuck to my consol right underneath my VHF
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There is a very good pre-preparedMayday/Pan Pan sticker that can be completed with the vessel information, inside the Safety at Sea booklet, which can normally be picked up for free at Chandlers, RNLI stations and boat clubs.
It is best to laminate it to help it last
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I would do an immediate mayday for MOB with the current sea temperature if on my sailing yacht BEFORE going back to pick up the casualty. If on a rib where recovery from the water is easier I would still consider issuing the mayday call.

Mayday is not just for sinking or fire.
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Solent Ranger - Thanks for the crib sheet. I am going to laminate it and fix it next to our radio.
Thanks for the comment, if you wait a bit I'm having the pdf adapted so you can type in your own details and then laminate it. This follows requests from some other people. I'll advise when it is up and running.
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Nope

MOB is not necessarily a Mayday as there is no presumption of "grave and imminent danger". It might be, but fire, explosion, or sinking are de facto mayday calls. These are listed as examples in the radio rules.

Pan Pan is used for urgency which MOB clearly is, even if it may or may not be grave and imminently dangerous. Pan Pan examples cited in radio rules include medical emergencies and such. MOB would be more typically characterized in this category, although sometimes a Mayday when you can't get them aboard or they are out of sight. Remember a Pan Pan is an urgent call for assistance afterall too.

I have a "MOB" every time I go out since 99% of the time we're going scuba diving.
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