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Old 27 August 2007, 12:17   #1
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Bilge Pump

Does anyone know if any of the Rule auto bilge pumps allow access to take the impellor out?

My Rule 1100 Auto sucked in an elastic band and I had to modify the bottom slightly to get the impellor out and now it doesn't shift as much water. It seems to be a common problem with the 1100.

Do the Rule 1500 or 2000 auto have impellor access? I believe the Gold series do but they aren't auto.

If not them I might just go manual as I’m not spending £70 every time the 1100 dies.

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Old 14 September 2007, 23:14   #2
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How long has your 1100 auto lasted? Rule pumps are a total joke if you ask me. I've had 4 of those 1100 autos in the last three months. They just do not last.
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Old 14 September 2007, 23:27   #3
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Uou can pull the top motor portion off the plastic base to clear debris but that's the extent of the maintenance you can perform.
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Old 16 September 2007, 10:26   #4
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Mine lasted about 18months - but I know of more which have failed.

I had a look around at the boat show and both the 1500 and 2000 allow you to unscrew the base of the pump so you can take the impellor out and clean it, which should extend its life.

One of the boats I use has a manual 1500 and as far as I know its been fine for years.
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Old 28 September 2007, 10:26   #5
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I spoke briefly with Laurence Lock from Barnet at the Soton Boat Show.

I noticed that they had a Rule 1500/2000 fitted to the larger XS RIB. Apparently they have fewer issues with the 1500/2000's than the 1100.

I'd recommend anyone looking at the Rule 1100 to consider stepping up to the 1500/2000.
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Old 28 September 2007, 12:09   #6
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Rule = S%*t.... I have had three of the crappy things this season of various types. Never overloaded or worked too hard but:
1) motor burned out
2) electrics went wrong no idea what it was but dead
3) Auto switch off (supposed to cut out once load has gone) stopped working last week and flattened the battery.

this is since June.

To sum up Rule in a word: CRAP.

Would be grateful for any recommendations to a pump which does work as pretty fed up with this..... cheers
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Old 28 September 2007, 12:15   #7
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I've had a manual 1100 rule pump on the boat since new nearly 5 years ago and it's still as good as it was on day 1. I don't tend to use the trunk on the back of the boat since it means manual intervention (getting up and going to back of boat) whereas at the flick of a switch the thing will clear a good few inches of water on deck pretty quickly on its own.

One thing I have noticed between my 1100 and the auto 500 we have installed on the dory at work is that the 500 has a gauze at the bottom to stop things like elastic bands getting into it. From what I'm aware, the 500 is still going strong after 3 or 4 years now with the only maintenence being the clearing of the gauze when it stops pumping water. Maybe we got lucky

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I don't tend to use the trunk on the back of the boat since it means manual intervention (getting up and going to back of boat) -Alex
All you need is a drill, some filler, a longer bit of string and a couple of plastic eyes. Mount the cleat somewhere near your seat (on the floor just under the toobs works well), then lead the string aft using as many plastic eyes as required to stop it tangling round everything on the way back - if you run it near the deck / toob join you'll never know it's there! Remote effalumps - more reliable than a pump (as long as you're on the plane!)
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Never used the trunk in my Humber, the probably old and definitely manky looking Attwood V1250 continues to cheerfully pump a mixture of fresh water, sea water, kelp, grease, WD40, mud and whatever else ends up in the bilge and hasn't missed a beat yet... if it does go pop I will be replacing it with the same.
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Old 29 September 2007, 17:15   #10
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I've had a manual 1100 rule pump on the boat since new nearly 5 years ago and it's still as good as it was on day 1. I don't tend to use the trunk on the back of the boat since it means manual intervention (getting up and going to back of boat) whereas at the flick of a switch the thing will clear a good few inches of water on deck pretty quickly on its own.

One thing I have noticed between my 1100 and the auto 500 we have installed on the dory at work is that the 500 has a gauze at the bottom to stop things like elastic bands getting into it. From what I'm aware, the 500 is still going strong after 3 or 4 years now with the only maintenence being the clearing of the gauze when it stops pumping water. Maybe we got lucky

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perhaps i am just unlucky, i clean the gauze and it only ever pumps out rain water...
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Old 29 September 2007, 18:35   #11
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One tip I heard was to put the bilge pump inside 2 sieves tied together - stops all the crap getting in.
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Old 03 October 2007, 11:09   #12
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I'd recommend anyone looking at the Rule 1100 to consider stepping up to the 1500/2000.
I'd reccomend buying a Johnsohn
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I'd reccomend buying a Johnsohn
Or Suzuki if you prefer black
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One tip I heard was to put the bilge pump inside 2 sieves tied together - stops all the crap getting in.
Just stand it in a small plastic Tupperware tub as it acts as a weir and the crap is left on the out side
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