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Old 03 July 2015, 17:39   #1
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Battery spec - DT200EFI

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Whilst in the process of getting 'The Nashers Revenge' and It's 1998 Suzuki DT200EFI ready for our annual pilgrimage to Dartmouth I've discovered that both it's batteries are dead, and although they take a charge it disappears within a few hours.

I don't think I can complain really.
One, a 75AH cheapo car battery was in the hull when I brought it in 2004, and was obviously not new at that stage.
The other, a 110AH Halfords Car battery, I purchased and installed a few months later.

Both were OK last summer, both have always spun up the big 2.7l V6 sufficiently to start it, but due to various things the boat hasn't been used since last summer and they're both dud.

The Suzuki book says use a 100AH battery, that's the only spec I have, and all three dealers I've called quote that despite my protests that things have moved on and CCA is what's important.

Now I need to get a couple of batteries, and the cost of them is going to have to come out of our holiday spending money, effectively reducing our petrol budget which normally allows us to use the boat every other day whilst we're away, so as you can imagine it's a right pain in the rear end to have to fork out for them.

What do those wiser than me think on CCA spec?

Each one has to independently be able to start the DT200, run it's trim, an E120, DSM300, VHF, Bilge pump etc, although the old lump does appear to keep the batteries topped up in use.
I'm thinking @750 minimum, but aim for @950.

They also need to fit in my battery boxes which have internal dimensions of 190 x 270 x 200mm.

Obviously I'm going to do this on the cheap, so please don't anyone suggest anything with a RED/Yellow top, or anything remotely leisure based. As you can tell from the above car batteries have served us well for 10yrs+, so I'm, happy to chance it again, and for this summer at least.

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Old 04 July 2015, 03:26   #2
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Hi Simon,

If the car batteries have been good for the last 10 years - then replace with roughly the same.

Get the biggest that will fit in your battery boxes - have a play on a battery supplier website to see what model will fit. Eurocarparts site is ok for doing this.

I've got Bosch car batteries in my boat - one thing to note re CCA is I found that in the Bosch range the ones with the longer warranty tended to have a higher CCA for the same size/model
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Old 04 July 2015, 03:43   #3
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I use & have used nothing other than standard car batteries in 30 years of boating & always found them fine
I often used secod hand ones as I ran a garage & often ended up with good batteries lying around
I've never had any significant problems with life span etc
As Simon suggested euro car parts are ok & I also just look for the biggest that will fit in the space . Also worth looking at variations of pole layouts as some shapes / pole layouts are often cheaper than others with the same output & you not usually as tied for size shape with a boat
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I go to my nearest autofactor outlet and buy the biggest CCA battery that will fit in the box. No science there.
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Thanks guys

I suppose what I'm getting at is what sort of minimum CCA do you think I need to run?

Just going somewhere and getting the biggest that will fit isn't an option, especially new, because of cost. Higher CCA means higher price.

Euro car parts are normally good, but you need a specific vehicle to search their site really.

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Just going somewhere and getting the biggest that will fit isn't an option, especially new, because of cost. Higher CCA means higher price.

You're clearly not skint, running ribs and holidaying in Devon, so why be tight?
The difference between a high and lower CCA battery of similar dimensions is probably 15-20. Your 200hp 2 stroke will take a bit of cranking from cold.

Surely any boat user would hand over an additional 20 for peace of mind? A round of icecreams in Salcombe would be 20, skip the lollies!
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It's a while since I bought a battery but my local auto factor offered the exact same battery with and without a three year guarantee for about 20% difference. No idea if that is normal practice.
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When are you heading down Nasher?
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Last week in July for a week.
Will you be around this year?

Mollers, with respect all things are relative, running a RIB and Holidaying in Dartmouth probably means something completely different to you and me.

To me it means saving all year and not using the boat so I can afford to put some petrol in it whilst we're camping in Dartmouth for a week. It's the only holiday we have and works out about 900 for the 4 of us including the petrol. So taking 200 out of it to buy batteries is going to make a huge dent.

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Might I suggest buying only ONE battery and taking the chance that it will perform well during the holiday this year - then look at a twin for it later.
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