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Old 27 February 2011, 14:36   #11
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I was only referring to the rubber booted ones and they are only splashproof, same as the original BEP panel, just alot cheaper....

As DHD said Carling are hard to beat and available in a similar configuration, but obviously alot dearer.

http://aquafax.co.uk/html/product_details.asp?ID=10194

Or buy individual carling switches, as many as required of the type needed (off-on, momentary etc) and then get the bezels and legends to suit. I reckon it may still be cheaper than the BEP...
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Electrics and sea water!!

IP 56 = ingress protection first number (5) = protected against dust ingress, some ingress permitted. Second number (6) = protected against strong jets of water, limited ingress permitted. Limited salt water ingress onto electrical contacts not for me!
Agree with Biff.
No experience of Carling switches, I've used Blue Sea which have proved reliable. Blue Sea weather deck switch panels IP67 rated, proof to temporary immersion - as needed on a RIB console (ie no ingress permitted) ~ 100 (money well spent in my book).
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IP 56 = ingress protection first number (5) = protected against dust ingress, some ingress permitted. Second number (6) = protected against strong jets of water, limited ingress permitted. Limited salt water ingress onto electrical contacts not for me!
Agree with Biff.
For example, Blue Sea weather deck switch panels IP67 rated, proof to temporary immersion - nothing gets in! ~ 100 (money well spent in my book).
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Agreed, but you should have seen the state of some of the IP68 control gear I used to replace in a factory I worked in, they didn't factor in the cleaning crew that's for sure!!

As a spark by trade I'm also with you but not all boats get used in all weathers so you pay your money and you takes your choice...
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Interestingly, Blue Sea use Carling switches on their Weatherdeck panels with basically the same rubber boot over and rate it at IP67

Personally I think if my switch panel can take being blasted with a jet of water with only "limited ingress", then a bit of spray from the bow is unlikely to cause instant death of my electrics.
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IP Rating

Sorry should have made the definition clearer - what the IP rating refers to are test conditions. These test conditions and test durations will be carefully defined. So the pass criteria for the test is a small amount of dust or water (which ever is being tested at the time) to get past the protection. This is the test conditions, and does not define the extent of ingress when taking loads of green water over the console every day of the week.
Often refer to these as part of the day job. Just getting the anorak now
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when something fails on a boat i like to take the bit to pieces to see why it failed, the toggle switches, if you can get them undone from the panel are made of ali, brass and steel, problay the worst combination you could have in a salt water world, this may be of interest, the trim switch on a controller handle, sometimes they go slightly loose and notchy, well the switch bit is fine but the spring under the rocker isn't, it's a 50 quid switch that fails for a little spring like the ones they use in ballpoint pens or small brushes from electric drills
you can buy carling's and swop the rockers about, they just pull off so you can change the faces
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The Carlings you all refer to are known as V series, but they also make an excellent toggle as well. I've had a few failures with the V series, but I've never had one of their toggles (with a rubber cover) let me down.

Don't buy "v" series from Cquip though, they're cheap chinese copies, although the modular bases that they sell are fine.
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