Anyone supply trackers for engines/ribs

[captainpugwash]

Originally Posted by Leapy

You, when he comes back with a few mates

You didn't think that I put it outside my own garage did you? Now that would be silly. I put it outside the garage of another low life. Keep up please.

[Leapy]

Originally Posted by captainpugwash

I need a bottle of Penderyn

I've got two glasses ready

[captainpugwash]

Originally Posted by Leapy

You, when he comes back with a few mates

[Leapy]

Originally Posted by captainpugwash

You didn't think that I put it outside my own garage did you? Now that would be silly. I put it outside the garage of another low life. Keep up please.

"Just leave them in front of your garage" sounds to me like "Just leave them in front of your garage" not "I put it outside the garage of another low life"

I'll keep up if you'll be more clear

[captainpugwash]

Originally Posted by Leapy

"Just leave them in front of your garage" sounds to me like "Just leave them in front of your garage" not "I put it outside the garage of another low life"

I'll keep up if you'll be more clear

I will try my best Leapy.

[Poly]

Originally Posted by captainpugwash

Two bits that caught my eye were these "Chip and Trace PRO is powered by M-Track Thatcham TQA 116/117 Marine Security Accreditation, the first and only Marine Security Tracking System to achieve this status" and also "Chip and Trace is a global Boat Security Identification and Tracking System using combined GPS, GSM and RF together with a unique RFID (Radio Frequency Identification Device) chip that is registered on a secure database of stolen boats".

Thatcham is, according to their own website, the "motor insurance repair research centre". I'm not suggesting there is no value in that - but it would be more impressive if it were boat related, or better still an "insurance policy" where if your boat is not recovered they compensate you (I used to have bike lock like that).

"Global..." is probably a bit misleading as you rightly identify there is a lot of the UK waters not in mobile reception never mind the world! I doubt mobile and gps reception is great inside a container on its way abroad either. So the key is getting alerted that it has moved NOW and therefore having some potential to act before the tracker is disabled, the boat is out of range etc.

They also sell the RFID tagging system on its own for about a fiver. That is really only useful if the police or a potential buyer thinks a boat/engine might be stolen and scans it or if you are trying to prove the engine that they've ground the serial no's off is yours. Its not "proactive" in that you need to be within a few feet of the device to detect the RFID tag (certainly within sight).

I think the loss of GSM signal was mentioned in a previous thread - and IIRC the cheap units that were being discussed will report back their last known position - which may provide some sort of starting point.

I'm not saying the TK102 is better - I'm just intrigued as to why you were convinced the other system was.

The service charge is not even the price of a pint of Guinness a week or a quarter bottle of Whisky.

your drinking in the wrong pubs! If you have that sort of money to spend on "monitoring" then thats great.

I suspect that the other system may be more valuable if you were cruising around the world (or at least abroad a lot) as no doubt the cheap PAYG sims become a headache (and expensive then).

I'm not sure if the cheap ones offer internet access to check the data?

Is a Pac22 that attractive from a "theft" point of view?

[Channel Ribs]

Originally Posted by captainpugwash

Yes I agree it is a great find indeed and I will be buying one for sure.

Just on the off chance that you missed it, have a compare to the www.yacht-sentinel.com

[captainpugwash]

Originally Posted by Polwart

Thatcham is, according to their own website, the "motor insurance repair research centre". I'm not suggesting there is no value in that - but it would be more impressive if it were boat related, or better still an "insurance policy" where if your boat is not recovered they compensate you (I used to have bike lock like that).

I also had that bike lock for my ZZR1100. Wish I had never sold it.

"Global..." is probably a bit misleading as you rightly identify there is a lot of the UK waters not in mobile reception never mind the world! I doubt mobile and gps reception is great inside a container on its way abroad either. So the key is getting alerted that it has moved NOW and therefore having some potential to act before the tracker is disabled, the boat is out of range etc.

Yes I agree.

They also sell the RFID tagging system on its own for about a fiver. That is really only useful if the police or a potential buyer thinks a boat/engine might be stolen and scans it or if you are trying to prove the engine that they've ground the serial no's off is yours. Its not "proactive" in that you need to be within a few feet of the device to detect the RFID tag (certainly within sight).

A bit like the microchip in my cat.

I think the loss of GSM signal was mentioned in a previous thread - and IIRC the cheap units that were being discussed will report back their last known position - which may provide some sort of starting point.

I'm not saying the TK102 is better - I'm just intrigued as to why you were convinced the other system was.

I did not say I was convinced Polwart. I just mentioned a system that had not popped up in the forum before. It's good to debate.

your drinking in the wrong pubs! If you have that sort of money to spend on "monitoring" then thats great.

I wish I was in the pub now.

I suspect that the other system may be more valuable if you were cruising around the world (or at least abroad a lot) as no doubt the cheap PAYG sims become a headache (and expensive then).

I am almost permanently abroad so for my needs that system would be best.

I'm not sure if the cheap ones offer internet access to check the data?

Is a Pac22 that attractive from a "theft" point of view?

I dont think the words attractive and Pac22 go together do they? I have no intention of fitting one to the Pac22. The intention is to fit it to my main vessel.

[captainpugwash]

Originally Posted by malthouse

Just on the off chance that you missed it, have a compare to the www.yacht-sentinel.com

Thanks Malthouse. I had seen this mentioned in a historical post. Again though it is reliant on a mobile phone signal.

[Poly]

Originally Posted by captainpugwash

Thanks Malthouse. I had seen this mentioned in a historical post. Again though it is reliant on a mobile phone signal.

Are you suggesting that the Chip&Trace is not?

[captainpugwash]

Originally Posted by Polwart

Are you suggesting that the Chip&Trace is not?

No but IMHO

Minimal installation, no antenna, easily transferred
Reduce your insurance costs
Difficult to detect, the unit gives no clues to its presence
Compact size 125mm X 38mm X 70mm (palm size) weight 220g
Long battery life, up to 5 years using patented power management
Works undercover GPS, GSM & RF
Accurate detection to sub 1 metre, ability to find worldwide
Robust IP67 construction (waterproof to 1 metre)
Control Centre provides dedicated professional 24/7 monitoring
24/7 Recovery Team
Vessel position maps can be sent to your mobile & the internet
Police support for arrest and reclaim of property
Affordable low cost managed solution
Low battery notification sent to owner
Intelligent self alarm motion sensor, tamper switch, or MRM alarm interface
Proven 98% of any stolen assets monitored to date have been recovered
Chip and Trace provides the unique proof of identity with RFID Chip included
Family of solutions to fit clients needs
GSM & RF version available (£260.00 plus VAT)
Chip and Trace Pro is powered by M-Track Thatcham TQA 117 Marine Accreditation Rating
The First and Only Marine Tracking Unit to receive this Accreditation

It is fine for me. Maybe not for others but for me.

Now where is my whisky.

[bedajim]

Their watch list just fills me with confidence

I've never seen a Harbour Master out with his scanner checking boats, also how close does he need to be with the scanner as it could take a while to check a 9m rib

Have you ever had to get anything recovered that has been found with a tracker, as the police support is not what it could be on some caravan sites

[Leapy]

Originally Posted by captainpugwash

It is fine for me. Maybe not for others but for me.

Perfect

[C2 RIBS]

Leapy and KY, what SIM type did you place in the tracker? Pay as you go? what network?

[Knot Yet]

Orange - Pay As You Go

[C2 RIBS]

cHEERS thats what I planned , glad it works

[Leapy]

Originally Posted by C2 RIBS

Leapy and KY, what SIM type did you place in the tracker? Pay as you go? what network?

O2 PAYG Simply on the basis that our mobiles/house alarm/garage alarm are on O2 Contract/PAYG. No other science involved...

[mike-m]

Just got mine, using O2 PAYG SIM.

Can't seem to get my phone authorised - tried calling unit repeatedly, but it's still working in "no authorised phone" mode. Bugger....

Any thoughts (apart from me being a technical illiterate of course!!)

Mike

[Leapy]

Originally Posted by mike-m

Just got mine, using O2 PAYG SIM.

Can't seem to get my phone authorised - tried calling unit repeatedly, but it's still working in "no authorised phone" mode. Bugger....

Any thoughts (apart from me being a technical illiterate of course!!)

Mike

Is it a clone or the real thing?

Where did you buy it from? If you bought it off eBay be prepared for some disappointment. They work up to a point, but there are faults and instabilities

Have you called it 10 times per the instructions from the phone you want to authorise?

The manual for the real thing says on page 11, paragraph 5.6.1:

"Call the Tracker 10 times. It (The Tracker) will make the cell phone number (the phone you are using to call the Tracker) as the authorised number". (Words in brackets are mine for clarity)

The manual for the clone says on page 11, paragraph 5.6:

"There are only 5 numbers able to be authorised.
5.6.1. Call the tracker for 10 times, it wil make the cell phone number as the authorised number automatically."

The difference in the wording between the manuals should help you identify if it's a clone or the real thing.

Hope this helps

[Leapy]

Originally Posted by Leapy

Have you called it 10 times per the instructions from the phone you want to authorise?

...and made sure your Caller ID is turned on