Yamaha 60 wont trim in any further.. PIC

ollyit · 11 August 2005, 21:57

Any ideas chaps?

- I've played with the manual screw adjustment thing on the saddle bit (thanks pete7)

and thats made no difference, you can see in the pics attached that the rams wont go in any more and is stopping the unit going any further in - could this an air lock type thing, I've been reading the service manual and all it goes is completely dismantling the whole assembly, not up for that havent got the specialist tools for starters -

Pete7 · 12 August 2005, 08:00

Olly hi, okay now tighten up the screw, its for emergencies only when the trim wont raise or lower and you need to over ride the hydraulics.

Bring the engine along to the next Church meet and we can give you 2 dozen different views on whats wrong

In the mean time, something is stopping it. Its not the end of the steering cable is it? when the hydraulics are released by the screw and you drop it from full tilt what happens, loud clonk? if so what is it hitting or is it the PPT at the bottom of the travel, saddle hitting the transom bracket ?

Don't go spending big bucks on this, because there is an alternative. Hardwood wedges are available to sit between the transom and the engine which will enable extra trim in to be gained.

Pete

ollyit · 12 August 2005, 09:22

thanks pete, I will check tonight, I'm sure its not the steering cable restricting the final trim in as this passes through the saddle at the top of the transom, the engine tilts all the way and down fine until it hits the trim rams and then stops, whether the tilt ram continues to retact I cant see as I'm at the wrong angle on the boat to watch it whilst pushing the button on the remotes, unfortunatley my unit doesnt have the tilt button on the outboard itself, think Im gonna have to film it with my digicam!

thanks for your suggestions so far

Nasher · 12 August 2005, 10:34

Olly

Hi, PM me a phone number and I'll try to get down over the weekend to have a look with you.

Nasher.

ollyit · 12 August 2005, 12:27

Only if its convenient mate?

I'll sling you a beer or two at the church! pm sent

ollyit · 15 August 2005, 13:26

played around with the screw mentioned above and got the rams eventually go back in, it seems the maybe its low on oil as it isnt up to the job of tiliting the engine up anymore - it need my tape the "up" button on the remote and run round and help lift it - on closer inspection of the seals, they look quite perished, so I'm gonna drop in it to that yamaha service place in fareham as I havent got the "yamaha special tool number 234628468834782342" to unlock the caps - bugger!

Jizm · 15 August 2005, 16:07

do the hydraulics make a sound like it is pumping air as well as oil? If so it may be low level or indeed contaminated oil. hope this helps
Jiz

ollyit · 15 August 2005, 20:49

thanks mate, yeah she makes all the right noises, it some caes get a little noiser towards the end with the manual release valve, Im reading my service manual at the moment and going to have a go following the manual how to top up the hydralics, and bleed the excess if any air in it -

ollyit · 20 September 2005, 14:44

Well, I had the whole unit stripped out, cleaned and put back together, and it still wont tilt the engine up, makes a worse "whirring noise" than it did before! - it trims in and out slowly ok, but when the tilt ram takes over it just doesnt have the balls to lift the motor, any ideas?

anyone wanna come and fix it/recommend any yamaha engineers?

I can run it on manual set trim via the bolt that goes through the bottom part of the saddle, but is a bloody pain as its not even gas assisted like this, plus I have to use tie down straps to stop the whole rig boucing on and off the saddle under thrust -

Jizm · 20 September 2005, 15:43

Who stripped it mate? Hydraulics are fairly straight forward, relying on a circuit for the oil to be pumped around.

ollyit · 20 September 2005, 19:26

the outboard centre in fareham matey aka MBmarine

Biggles · 20 September 2005, 19:28

Ollyit,

Check your inbox mate.

Jizm · 20 September 2005, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ollyit

the outboard centre in fareham matey aka MBmarine

They're usually pretty good, do you lose any oil when it tries to tilt up?

Hightower · 20 September 2005, 21:30

What did MB marine say? Surley if they couldn't fix it they told you what the problem was?

ollyit · 21 September 2005, 09:20

The guy wasnt sure to be honest, he said it could be a valve somewhere which is £90+vat alone without fitting , but again he said that might not fix it - I think I just need another opinion before I chuck any more dosh at somethign that may not even be the problem -

ollyit · 21 September 2005, 09:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jizm

They're usually pretty good, do you lose any oil when it tries to tilt up?

I'll check im sure it doesnt all seems pretty dry, and now clean since the strip down and rebuild

Pete7 · 21 September 2005, 10:04

Oli, you could take it to Lee Fairweather but he is busy, or try Dean, who Hightower used the other day. Dean is a Yamaha mechanic and is good and cash talks. Dean is at Bursledon, 07749633797, worth a phone call to see what he thinks.

Pete

Hightower · 21 September 2005, 10:26

Yeh, I forgot about Dean. I'm sure he could do something.

Andy

Jizm · 22 September 2005, 08:34

Olly,
Try posting your prob on the iboats forum. The yanks are usually quite helpful and there's lots and lots of quite knowledgable people on there.
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