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Old 01 February 2007, 12:58   #11
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You'd have to check the patents, a company's ability to economically produce said technology is whole different matter. Generally the technology exists a long time before it enters the marketplace. Rudolf Diesel had load of good ideas likewise Daimler and Benz; turbos, superchargers etc.

I liked the 70s bras hadnt been invented then ofcourse...
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Oh right, so technology hasn't moved on since the 70's.
The point I was trying to make is that you could buy a big V8 outboard back in the 70s - and it's taken until 2008 for them to reappear!!!

Engines haven't improved that much anyway. They had 4 valves per cylinder - twin sparks -variable valve timing etc etc back in the 20s. The Rolls Royce Merlin is still an amazing engine and is still used in racing even now.

Efficency has improved due to modern electronics etc but that's about it. And I suspect at WOT there won't be that much difference between any 350hp outboard!!!
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The Rolls Royce Merlin is still an amazing engine and is still used in racing even now.

Love to know what racing uses one (or more????!!!!!!!!) of those!
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Tractor Pulling?
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The point I was trying to make is that you could buy a big V8 outboard back in the 70s - and it's taken until 2008 for them to reappear!!!

Engines haven't improved that much anyway. They had 4 valves per cylinder - twin sparks -variable valve timing etc etc back in the 20s. The Rolls Royce Merlin is still an amazing engine and is still used in racing even now.

Efficency has improved due to modern electronics etc but that's about it. And I suspect at WOT there won't be that much difference between any 350hp outboard!!!
Cod, that is a somewhat simplistic take on it, I tend to agree the basic concept has not changed all that much BUT...
Reliability has come a long way since the 70's with cars, boats and motorcycles especially, consider what destroyed the British motorcycle industry, the japanese bikes were much more reliable and less maintenance intensive. Increased horsepower, reliability, lower emissions are some benefits of modern engine technology.
Incidentally... I have always been a fan of British bikes, have a Triumph in the garage right now as a matter of fact, the old Norton, Triumph and Beezers,now they had style! The Commando, the Bonneville... those were some pretty bikes.. Nothing quite like firing up a British twin! Whoops! getting out on a tangent here, what was this thread about?
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Yup - also air racers and unlimited hydroplanes - lots of events where loads of power is needed and there are no silly rules to get in the way!!!
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Cod, that is a somewhat simplistic take on it, I tend to agree the basic concept has not changed all that much BUT...
Reliability has come a long way since the 70's with cars, boats and motorcycles especially, consider what destroyed the British motorcycle industry, the japanese bikes were much more reliable and less maintenance intensive. Increased horsepower, reliability, lower emissions are some benefits of modern engine technology.
Incidentally... I have always been a fan of British bikes, have a Triumph in the garage right now as a matter of fact, the old Norton, Triumph and Beezers,now they had style! The Commando, the Bonneville... those were some pretty bikes.. Nothing quite like firing up a British twin! Whoops! getting out on a tangent here, what was this thread about?
Remember a lot of the most succesfull engines are based on very old designs. I think some of the big Volvo and Mercury inboards date back to the 50s or 60s. Prob the best marine diesel ever were the Gardners and they are still plodding along very nicely - they will outlast most of the modern stuff.

Same with guns - many of the designs are truly ancient. Of course a Glock or a Sig is a great gun but are they REALLY that much better than a Browning Hi Power that was designed in 1907? The Browning 50cal dates back to the 1920s - maybe even earlier.

Many things these days aren't quite as advanced as people would like to think!!!
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