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Old 06 July 2018, 15:41   #1
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yamaha 15hp 2 stroke

I have found a used inflatable and engine. Its a 3.1 zodiac zoom and a Yamaha 15 FMH 2 stroke engine.
The engine is a 2000. I dont know squat about boats but i used to be a motorbike mechanic. Inside the engine cover it looks new.
The boat has one small patch and he says its stayed up for 1 month so far.It got a 3 part wooden floor. Boat doesnt look anything good

Research says, the inflatable isnt the best.
He wants £1150 this includes electric pump, wheels and petrol tank


Is this a good buy?

I can get, say a new 3.3 excel with a new Suzuki 6hp for £1850. All new with warranty.
These 2 strokes are fetching good money
Also. How do I test the engine. I thought you could connect a hosepipe for cooling but the guy says it has to suck water up. Do i take a large bin lol
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Old 06 July 2018, 17:52   #2
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I have found a used inflatable and engine. Its a 3.1 zodiac zoom and a Yamaha 15 FMH 2 stroke engine.
The engine is a 2000. I dont know squat about boats but i used to be a motorbike mechanic. Inside the engine cover it looks new.
The boat has one small patch and he says its stayed up for 1 month so far.It got a 3 part wooden floor. Boat doesnt look anything good

Research says, the inflatable isnt the best.
He wants £1150 this includes electric pump, wheels and petrol tank


Is this a good buy?

I can get, say a new 3.3 excel with a new Suzuki 6hp for £1850. All new with warranty.
These 2 strokes are fetching good money
Also. How do I test the engine. I thought you could connect a hosepipe for cooling but the guy says it has to suck water up. Do i take a large bin lol
Google Flush Muffs.

You'll have a lot more fun with 15hp than 6
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Old 06 July 2018, 17:55   #3
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Yep and further I'd be wary of any seller who couldn't be bothered to make it easy for you to test the engine.

Those Yamahas are nice engines and on a good day would make the whole sum you're being asked for the outfit.
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Old 06 July 2018, 17:59   #4
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If the 15hp yam is as clean as you say most of your money is in the engine.
They are expensive for a reason, they are no longer available to buy new and people want them for their light weight and simplicity.
That 15hp Yamaha will probably outlive many of the newer 4 strokes being sold now if its looked after.
Buy the boat and use it you can always upgrade the boat later on if it isnt what you want.
You wont find a better engine for a sib
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Old 07 July 2018, 11:32   #5
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Yep and further I'd be wary of any seller who couldn't be bothered to make it easy for you to test the engine.

Those Yamahas are nice engines and on a good day would make the whole sum you're being asked for the outfit.

Thats whats worrying me. He said he had boast on and off all his life. I asked his if it was category c boat. He didnt understand.
Also he would be set up to test an engine.

The engine looks new inside. It could be stolen. The guy didnt sound well educated, Not that i am
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Old 07 July 2018, 12:29   #6
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I’m sure there are many seasoned boat people who wouldn’t know what the recreational craft directive is never mind whether their little rubber boat is cat C or D. It’s quite a leap to get from there to the boat being stolen.

If he’s not been flushing it - that would be at least a slight concern (although depending how much he’s used it and stored it, it could well be as clean inside as it sounds outside). That said I think most outboards are cleaner than motorbikes under the hood, they don’t get road crap thrown at them and probably are used less.

I’d ask who’s serviced it, and hope to see some paperwork supporting that. If he says he’s done it get him to talk you through what the service involved (key thing probably being does he change the impeller, and fit fresh washers on the gearbox fill/drain screws). If he tells you he just uses car gearbox oil or buys impellers cheap from China then the correct response is, “thanks Lee, but I’ll give it a miss ;-)”
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I’m sure there are many seasoned boat people who wouldn’t know what the recreational craft directive is never mind whether their little rubber boat is cat C or D. It’s quite a leap to get from there to the boat being stolen.

If he’s not been flushing it - that would be at least a slight concern (although depending how much he’s used it and stored it, it could well be as clean inside as it sounds outside). That said I think most outboards are cleaner than motorbikes under the hood, they don’t get road crap thrown at them and probably are used less.

I’d ask who’s serviced it, and hope to see some paperwork supporting that. If he says he’s done it get him to talk you through what the service involved (key thing probably being does he change the impeller, and fit fresh washers on the gearbox fill/drain screws). If he tells you he just uses car gearbox oil or buys impellers cheap from China then the correct response is, “thanks Lee, but I’ll give it a miss ;-)”

I went to see it. Took a bin so i could see it running. Also too a compression tester. He didnt expect that

Pulled it out of garage. He bought it from new. Had manual with loads of new spares. Plugged in external fuel tank. primed it and it started 2nd pull. Sounded sweet.Showed me it it gears etc. Then the water spray yet thing stopped working. He then foung end of tube was blocked. All ok again.

Then I had a rev of it. It held revs and sounded sweet. If i revved it and let go, it knocked twice followed by a knackered bearing sound. Only faint. He said he couldnt hear it.Sounded like the top of the shaft. I placed my hand on it but couldnt feal anything

I walked away.As I have no knowledge of outboards but a good knowledge of 2 stroke bikes
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If it is knocking walk away
Go and get the excel with 6hp you can always up grade your engine next year after you get use to it
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If it is knocking walk away
Go and get the excel with 6hp you can always up grade your engine next year after you get use to it

Looks newhttps://www.gumtree.com/p/boats-kaya...tor/1305168571
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Yep does look tidy.

I've had 2-stroke outboards with odd noises that were their "character" not faults. They all sound a little different. However if you are unsure always walk away.
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