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Old 29 September 2012, 10:27   #1
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Who makes Mariner?

I alway thought that Mariner outboards were made by Mercury and then someone told me that Yamaha were also made by the same company that made the Merc and Mariner, is that true ?

Would it be fair to say that most modern outboards ie Yam, Honda, Merc, Mariner, Suzuki are pretty much of a muchness, I'm finding the choice of boat impossible never mind the complication of the engines !! Should I be overly concerned about which lump sits on the back ? I'm looking at 80hp to 115hp.

Your thoughts, as ever, are appreciated.

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Old 29 September 2012, 11:11   #2
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Merc which is same as Mercury had a joint venture with Yamaha to produce portable engines in the 5 to 40 HP size, now a days portables in the 2.5 to 30 HP 4 strokes and 2.5 to 50 HP in the 2 strokes with light variations are produced by Tohatsu which is same as Nissan.

So 80 to 115 must be Mercury's own make. The good about mentioned Jap brand engines is that don't make crappy engines. Are very even in quality, just pick your personal brand.

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Mariners are Mercurys but origionaly designed for salt water use apparently.
mercs/mariners blow 40hp were yams apparently.
so 1-40hp was or is yam and 40 onwards are mercs.
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I alway thought that Mariner outboards were made by Mercury and then someone told me that Yamaha were also made by the same company that made the Merc and Mariner, is that true ?

Would it be fair to say that most modern outboards ie Yam, Honda, Merc, Mariner, Suzuki are pretty much of a muchness, I'm finding the choice of boat impossible never mind the complication of the engines !! Should I be overly concerned about which lump sits on the back ? I'm looking at 80hp to 115hp.

Your thoughts, as ever, are appreciated.

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To my mind the first decision to make (assuming you are talking new outboard) is 4 stroke or new technology 2 stroke. If its 4 strokes then by and large for the main brands you mention there is not much between them, so the factors which usually help people make up their minds are:

- cost
- weight
- local service / support
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Except a lot of the larger Mercury F series 4 strokes have Yam power heads

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Wouldent like to comment on the later ones but Story I got when they first came out on the market around 1978 was that the smaller portable engines from 2 hp right up to the 60 hp were all Rebadged Yamaha's whilst the larger 70 hp up to the 175 hp were then all rebadged Mercurys..
I know many of the mariner parts were the same and were interchangeable with the Yamaha model engines .
Suppose it was the Same as the the old Evinriude & Johnson engines that were the OMC group different colour schemes and badges but mechanically the same engine .
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To my mind the first decision to make (assuming you are talking new outboard) is 4 stroke or new technology 2 stroke. If its 4 strokes then by and large for the main brands you mention there is not much between them, so the factors which usually help people make up their minds are:

- cost
- weight
- local service / support
+1 with perhaps local service and support coming first
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+1 with perhaps local service and support coming first
100% on that one ! I have a great Suzuki dealer whos done a great job for us over the last few years. Just seeing Ribeyes with Yams and some of the other ribs with Mariners, they wouldn't be my first choice simply because I dont know the local dealers.

Ha! Ha! and there was me thinking..."I'll just go get myself a rib"
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In the old days some Mariner were made by the sanshin company who made yamaha engines hence the old 40/30/25/20 were always referred to as 40 Sanshin engines by us at the factory.
Now Mercury build them all, when they get to Belgium (marine power europe) they get a Mariner top cowl or a Mercury top cowl. All built on the same production line. Mercury also own a large part of Tohatsu (TMC) So im told!! hence the small Mercs/Mariners are the same as some Tohatsu engines.
The older style Merc/Mariners four strokes were also Yamaha Based power heads, such as the 75/90/115/225hp.
These have been replaced by Mercury's own four stroke called the L4NA (Line 4 Normally Aspirated) Or the Verado L6 and L4.
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I run a 115 Merc and a 60 Marina, both EFI and great engines and I'd buy them again if i had the choice, qbut I get fed up with the stupid price for spares, in some cases it would be cheaper to get the parts machined yourself rather than buy them from Mercury, but from why I hear, most brands are as bad.
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