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Old 12 April 2003, 09:45   #41
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Whats the problem with admitting that were not marine engineers?

I can understand after reading some of this thread why some people buy crap,time after time.

You can bust engines and legs and still say its the fault of the boat weight? you can believe that there is a Sea water cooling problem in the leg and then find out that it exits through the transom. You can believe that sternpower build for the military so it must be good on a 315 hp diesel?.You can believe that one engine HP is more powerfull cos it produces a higher HP at the crank ?and it seems insignificant what it produces at the prop?

Some can quote what they believe otheres will say,when the reality is compleatly different.

Why dont you just all admit you havnt got a clue what is the best stern drive combination and your guessing/hopeing even though you may or may not own one.

There is nothing wrong in advising somebody to get specilist advice on this techinical subject.
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Old 12 April 2003, 18:01   #42
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CH. Part of the problem is that the specialists don't know either.

And, there is one sentence that was told to me years ago by a pal who had been ribbing for some time. It rang true with me also.

"They'll tell you anything."

When I was investigating my diesel engine choice, I spoke, at length, to those who are purported to know. You have to read between the lines. I was fortunate because there was a series of boat shows over a weekend on the west coast and both the Barrus reps and the Volvo agent were there. Also, just by chance, I met a friend there who had a KAD 44 rig which he had just sold and he was going for a Yanmar and 3x. We spoke to the Barrus guys at length but we had to make sure we asked exactly the right questions to dig out the truth. Watching their body language and there glances to each other told as much of the story as their words. This was so much the case, the pal was about to cancel the Yanmar. He is completely non technical and, from his recounting his experience, it seemed obvious that his Volvo problems/disappointment stemmed from poor maintenance by the local agent rather that a weakness of the Volvo. We got the truth from the Barrus guys eventually but very reluctantly. This was the deciding factor and we've discussed it before on this forum.
Finally, for me, the choice lay between twin Mercruisers or a single Volvo. Now, that took a lot of deliberation. There were so many reasons to go with each. One reason for the consideration of the twins, which is relevant to this thread, is the use of the Alfa drive. Very capable of accepting the 120hp, relatively cheap, available in various ratios, contra rotating at no extra cost, a huge range of props, some very cheap, 100 or less. Remember, our Volvo duoprops are costing about 1000 a set. Silly money really. Quite why I finally opted for the Volvo I'm still not entirely sure! I think the persuading factor was the extra speed I would achieve. I have very much enjoyed my present boat and it will cruise all day at 45mph. I wanted to continue to do the same.
However, back to the thread. I've other friends who have used the 3x extensively. Lots of them!(3x's, that is). Yanmar cracked blocks too. They made a comment to me that I've not forgotten. They said they would really like to be rid of the feeling that, one day, they may have to call for a tow. It always prayed on them while they were out on the water. And, if they were buying again, they would be willing to consider reduced power to gain reliability. For me, the choice of the DPX was partly to do with predicted speed but two other factors were also important. One was the wide gearcase which is a proper aerofoil in section. This will give very good low speed steering. The other was the hydraulic steering using external rams. There is one thing I learned early on. On a fast boat (and on any boat to some extent) tight, responsive steering is worth its weight in gold.

There's lots more to say but I'm blethering so I'll stop here (for now )
However, when buying any marine equipment, remember, 'They'll tell you anything.'

JW.
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Old 14 April 2003, 07:28   #43
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bloody computers, I'll try again,
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Old 14 April 2003, 07:33   #44
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There is one thing I learned early on. On a fast boat (and on any boat to some extent) tight, responsive steering is worth its weight in gold.JW.
Couldn't agree more JW:
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Old 14 April 2003, 10:57   #45
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with a stern that good looking, its ashame to put it in the water!!!
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Old 14 April 2003, 11:10   #46
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At the risk of sounding like an anorak,
Them's some serious lifting eyes!
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Old 14 April 2003, 11:18   #47
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Children could get stuck in those exhaust pipes.....
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Old 14 April 2003, 11:29   #48
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Them's some serious lifting eyes!

They make it easier for Seastart to recover the boat every time its manifolds melt
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Old 14 April 2003, 12:55   #49
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The fuller Puller

I can confirm that I had a quick look at the Fuller Puller last night and she was mint.The whole boat was spotless,even replaced the engine bolts with stainless ones.

5 inch exhausts,Trim Tabs and what a set of 316 lifting eyes.

As far as I could see she was as new.

Inside she was fitted out as a profesional jobee although Mr Fuller said he had done it himself?.Double bed up front where the action takes place,and a double three man piped setee on both sides,the atention to detail was exellent,eg Zips for the covers ect.

She also had suncken lights in the deck head and Diesel heating all swithched from a handy central position.There was even a light switch at the end of the double berth so you dont have to get out of bed to turn the lights off.

Very good Mr Fuller,shame it didnt have tubes.
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Old 14 April 2003, 13:43   #50
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Very good Mr Fuller,shame it didnt have tubes.
CH, Now why would I want to spoil it? LOL
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