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Old 04 September 2012, 06:20   #41
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Must admit I have been very impressed with my current Suzuki DF25. Very quiet and very economical, but have done less than 20 hours on it so barely run in.

Out of interest, have the etecs you mention done significant hours before developing faults? My use will be relatively light.
Nope. All within warranty, just, and v low hours, ie liesure use. Just a pain though.
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Nope. All within warranty, just, and v low hours, ie liesure use. Just a pain though.
Just had a chat with an Evinrude dealer. He says that the 'no scheduled maintenance for 3 years' is a bit misleading, and suggests that if the engine is used in salt water that it should still be serviced every 12-18 months to avoid potential issues. If looked after, he says it's as reliable as any of the other manufacturers' engines he sells (including Suzuki).
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Hi,
Exept from being a former outboard mechanic and an active boater private, I'm also member of a beach life guard team in the south of Holland (NorthSea).

In this team we are using both Yamaha 60efi (2009) & 70efi (2011) engines and are very happy with both. Never had any problems with these, but their quite expensive to buy. We also have a Mecury 60efi (2010). Fuel consumption of this machine is also very good and never had any problems with this engine too. The Mercury was a couple of thousands cheaper as the Yamaha's when it was bought. From that opinion I would buy a Mercury again.

We have also had 3 Evinrude 60 Etec's too in the near past. These were quite loud machines compared to the fourstrokes and the fuel consumption is worse compared to the fourstrokes (10-20% more). All the three of them are not alive anymore, because they all fell of the bracket between the fourth and fifth year of usage.

Good luck buying!
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Exept from being a former outboard mechanic and an active boater private, I'm also member of a beach life guard team in the south of Holland (NorthSea).

In this team we are using both Yamaha 60efi (2009) & 70efi (2011) engines and are very happy with both. Never had any problems with these, but their quite expensive to buy. We also have a Mecury 60efi (2010). Fuel consumption of this machine is also very good and never had any problems with this engine too. The Mercury was a couple of thousands cheaper as the Yamaha's when it was bought. From that opinion I would buy a Mercury again.

We have also had 3 Evinrude 60 Etec's too in the near past. These were quite loud machines compared to the fourstrokes and the fuel consumption is worse compared to the fourstrokes (10-20% more). All the three of them are not alive anymore, because they all fell of the bracket between the fourth and fifth year of usage.

Good luck buying!
Many thanks for that. Very useful
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All the three of them are not alive anymore, because they all fell of the bracket between the fourth and fifth year of usage.

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Really. Interesting Kerny!
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All the three of them are not alive anymore, because they all fell of the bracket between the fourth and fifth year of usage.

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When you say they all fell of the bracket do you mean the transom saddle ?? Can you elaborate please.

As for fuel consumption my 60 Etec pushing a 5.4 rib is exellent.
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Mobile Marine engineers were doing the new Merc 60 four stroke for 5k with smartcraft etc. seems to be a good deal, with ref the the Etec, ive never been a fan, they just seem to have a shit load of issues more so than any other make.does anyone use them commercially ? rescue organisations etc ? they do look good tho and go well. with the right prop the hole-shot and acceleration is superb.
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Beware lumping all engines by one manufacturer together.

The old Clamshell issues that have given them a bad name are a prime example- i rebuilt mine with many Merc designed mods not found on the engine i bought.

Problem is global perception of that engine is one of powerhead destroying unreliability. By the of of production 20 odd years later they were pretty good, but sh!t sticks...

60hp, 83kg, 0.83L / nautical mile. I can live with that.

Moral of post: do your research, and remember your proverbial meat might be the next owner's poison...
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I think that's pretty wise all things considered. They are all battling against each other and it's a tough industry right now.

I was chatting with our supplier for new motors and he said they are killed by the mail order options out there offering them at almost cost price just to get the deal. The money is all in the servicing so it's hard to see where these suppliers make it worthwhile, as chances are they won't go back for a service if the distance is restrictive.

"POA" pricing gives them at least one chance (when you enquires) to seal the deal.
Totally agree, we dont put prices on our website mainly because we cannot compete with many of the big dealers offering massive discount and pretty much selling for cost price plus a few quid. Also there are so many bargains coming out of the factory the buying prices change quite often so we now do individual prices if some one wants. Plus if its a big engine say 60hp plus i will call the factory first and see what sort of a deal we can get, so then we can try and compete with the bigger online dealers.

Anyway buy a Mercury/Mariner better than all the other engines!!
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Merc/Mariner don't seem to be getting much airtime, aren't Mercury the ones who invent and the others follow.

As for warantees, most are not worth anything, go and speak to an approved engineer and find out how easy it is to claim, the smallest thing out of place and it will be void.
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