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Old 03 September 2012, 19:22   #31
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The e-tecs need to be set-up using the official dealers' software/hardware when first installed, so that probably takes the mail order retailers out of the game.

You'll get a price on the phone though.
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Seems you just did. My perception is that they tend to be older technology, less 'green', even less reliable than the Japanese motors. Is that unfair?
Disagree. More reliable IMHO than etec. I know 5 etec owners, all have had significant faults. Would steer clear personally. Optis are tried and tested and no worse fuel wise than an etec. Best 2 stroke IMHO. I'd buy a sooz if I wanted a 4 stroke. Know a few with them, no issues. But I prefer the Punch of a 2 stroke.
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The e-tecs need to be set-up using the official dealers' software/hardware when first installed, so that probably takes the mail order retailers out of the game.

You'll get a price on the phone though.
Okay, I didn't realise that.
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Hi

I like the idea of the ETEC but since working at COS for the last few years I never seen one with high hours but I have seen lots of yams and honda's with 3,000+ hours. They also now dont have a UK office.

re Mercury/mariner. These engines are good but if reliability is your number 1 factor then I would still go Yam (proven over many many years) or Honda with the 6 year warranty which is the longest of all the makes.
Also Yam and Honda have are by far the preferred choice of the commercial guys and these are the people who put the most hours on the engines and need the best economy. Interestingly Yam sell direct to these companies where as Honda still go through dealers so if you like yams and are a company then there are v good deals be had.
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Disagree. More reliable IMHO than etec. I know 5 etec owners, all have had significant faults. Would steer clear personally. Optis are tried and tested and no worse fuel wise than an etec. Best 2 stroke IMHO. I'd buy a sooz if I wanted a 4 stroke. Know a few with them, no issues. But I prefer the Punch of a 2 stroke.
You can't get an Opti in 50/60hp though.
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My use will be leisure only, and I suspect I'd be unlikely to do more than 60 - 80 hours per annum.
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Disagree. More reliable IMHO than etec. I know 5 etec owners, all have had significant faults. Would steer clear personally. Optis are tried and tested and no worse fuel wise than an etec. Best 2 stroke IMHO. I'd buy a sooz if I wanted a 4 stroke. Know a few with them, no issues. But I prefer the Punch of a 2 stroke.
Must admit I have been very impressed with my current Suzuki DF25. Very quiet and very economical, but have done less than 20 hours on it so barely run in.

Out of interest, have the etecs you mention done significant hours before developing faults? My use will be relatively light.
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My 50hp 2 stroke Merc Brown band is approx 28 yrs.old I know it's old technology and not very "Green" I know, but I have owned it for the last Twenty odd years and I can say with hand on heart it's never let me down. I have seen guy's under Yam covers with spanners in hand, scratching there heads and muttering "Rhubarb Rhubarb" My Brother has had a 60hp. Yam and it turned out to be a bag of dog's deposit. He now has a Mariner 45 2 stroke approx same age as my Merc, both engines utterly reliable. Just relating my experiences
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My 50hp 2 stroke Merc Brown band is approx 28 yrs.old I know it's old technology and not very "Green" I know, but I have owned it for the last Twenty odd years and I can say with hand on heart it's never let me down. I have seen guy's under Yam covers with spanners in hand, scratching there heads and muttering "Rhubarb Rhubarb" My Brother has had a 60hp. Yam and it turned out to be a bag of dog's deposit. He now has a Mariner 45 2 stroke approx same age as my Merc, both engines utterly reliable. Just relating my experiences
That old saying, "they (probably) don't make them like they used to" springs to mind
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