Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 06 March 2015, 15:35   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Worcester
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 14
What size spare engine?

Hello,

I have a 5.3m Tornado with a 1990 75HP engine. due to the age of the engine i am thinking about having a small backup engine on the transom in case the worst happens?

What size do people recommend? i thought about a 5HP?

Thanks
Alex
__________________
clark282 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 March 2015, 16:16   #2
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,299
as a rule, should be fine. 1 hp per metre
__________________
Member of S.A.B.S. West Country Division
matt h is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 March 2015, 17:11   #3
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: bedford
Make: tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard 60hp merc
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 328
I have a tornado 5mtr with a 60 hp main engine and bought a Yamaha Malta from a mate of mine, which I believe is 4hp. This seems fine but I haven't used it for real ie in an emergency situation. The advantage of a small two stroke is that it fits alongside the main engine using the transom rather that a bracket.

good luck dave
__________________
davej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 March 2015, 18:11   #4
Member
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,898
RIBase
Sods law says that if your main engine does indeed fail, it will do so at the most inconvenient moment, which in boating terms is when you're being blown onto a lee shore in breaking seas, your aux needs to be able to cope with those conditions. 5hp might be enough to push it along in nice calm conditions with the wind & tide behind you, but you wouldn't want to be stuck in the Corryvrecken with only a 5hp
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4:Don't feed the troll
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 March 2015, 18:53   #5
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: The sea dog
Make: Swiftline
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yan 315
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 22
My old boat, 17ft Wilson flyer had a 86 115 two stroke Suzy, never missed a beat in 6 years! Apart from once with a dodgey battery being flat. We had a 15 mariner 4 stroke on a custom stainless and HDPE bracket I made and bolted to the transom. We used to use the wee 4 for trawling or just saving fuel, it would push us all day long against a 2mph tide at about 7mph, it was good for about 9mph flat out. The boat was fairly heavy loaded, possibly 1500kg or more on a 3/4 day fishing trip
__________________
Sea_dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2015, 00:10   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,934
6-8hp would be ideal if you can find something.

A 5hp sail would also be decent choice if you come across one.

Other factor is space and weight will dictate what size you can fit. As an example, my 5hp 4 stroke mariner would not fit on my old 5.6 Avon, I was stuck with a 3.3hp 2 stroke, never had to use it in anger which is probably just as well. I figured it would do as keeping me off rocks till I got anchors out worst case.

Cheers
__________________
Xk59D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2015, 07:22   #7
Member
 
spartacus's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,534
RIBase
I've got a Mariner 4hp 2-stroke on my Ribcraft 4.8 and have never had to use it. Reassuring to have it though. Service it well and use it every time you're out, if even just to tick it over.

Suzuki 6hp long-shaft 4-stroke: John Bridger Marine

Yamaha 8hp long-shaft 2-stroke and others here: http://www.seamarknunn.co.uk/download/usedob/used.pdf
__________________
Is that with or without VAT?
spartacus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2015, 09:41   #8
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: The sea dog
Make: Swiftline
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yan 315
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 22
If your getting a back up, don't forget that some small outboards are the same, ie my mariner 15 also comes as a 9.9, so worth getting the extra hp for a little more dosh, but no extra weight!
__________________
Sea_dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2015, 10:24   #9
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Worcester
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 14
Thanks for all your help, definitely got me thinking a bit more. Something that fits directly on the transom would be ideal, but happy with a bracket if needs be.
__________________
clark282 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2015, 10:40   #10
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: The sea dog
Make: Swiftline
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yan 315
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 22
Just bear in mind most brackets go upto 5/6hp but always go by weight rating. I'm sure some other people on here can advise if the sees other brackets out there. Or if you fancy making one I can PM you a sketch of what I made before
__________________
Sea_dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2015, 11:36   #11
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,934
Avoid brackets unless you have no other option.

Cheers
__________________
Xk59D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 March 2015, 20:30   #12
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Lincoln
Boat name: Logan Charles
Make: SR5.4 &AvonTyphoon
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner 75, Merc 25
MMSI: pm me..
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 52
I have an SR4 with 40 stroker yam. I have a 55Ib thrust battery powered trolling motor. it pushes my 3.4 sib along at a strong walking pace on one leisure battery all day long.
Im wondering how it would do on my sea rider as an emergency. I know its not going to go fast on a head on tide, but would it possibly work as an emergency? Obviously sense would dictate having a spare battery on board. thoughts please?
__________________
darren moom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 March 2015, 20:36   #13
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Lincoln
Boat name: Logan Charles
Make: SR5.4 &AvonTyphoon
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner 75, Merc 25
MMSI: pm me..
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 52
Ive only suggested the above as there is very little room on my transom with the main engine, and A frame as well. I have a silver century seagull but think even that would be a struggle to operate ..
__________________
darren moom is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 15:24.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.