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Old 04 October 2018, 12:26   #1
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The "auxilliary or not?" argument

If its rough out and you break down then an aux may take longer than you'd like to get back and you'd probably be justified in calling the cavalry, however it may just keep you off the rocks or maintain a heading untill the cavalry arrive. But on a nice sunny calm day if your only a couple of miles from home you'll be far happier pottering back with your aux than calling for help.
Personally id find it more embarrassing calling for help on a fine sunny day than I would if it were blowing a hoolie
I wonder if an aux might have saved the redbay that was wrecked off Mull last week?
Its not a written rule that breakdowns occur when its rough
I have moved my 7.4m delta with a 5hp yam but now have an 8hp yam
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I have a ballistic 7m with a 15hp 2 stroke so about the weight of a 10hp 4 stroke. I've been through several brackets and also now have a strap over the A frame. Tried it out when broke down last summer and I'm not sure I'd want less power but I guess it depends on how far you travel. Being 2 cylinders also reassuring. Many seem to have 8hp single. But in a swell and offshore It would be a real slog. Does your engine have a limp home mode? Can you cruise in company? I'm not convinced an aux is the way to go really.
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Didnít we have this exact conversation a few weeks ago Lol
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Hey my doubts about the value of "limp home mode"


Gearbox fault....not "limping" anywhere
Fuel issue, it's probably not going to "limp" for very long
Overheating...no water flow.....it's not going to "limp" for very long.
Major electrical failure.....probably not going to "limp" at all.
Timing belt..not going to "limp"...... or ever run again
Steering failure....going to "limp" round in circles
No blades left on your prop..."limp mode" ain't going to help

In essence the only time it's going to keep "limping home" is when there's probably nothing wrong with the bl@@dy engine and it's some over complicated engine management device that's failed and the solution would have been for the manufacturer to have fitted decent quality devices in the first place.

Not a panacea but an AUX is going to be better in every one of the above..
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I have a ballistic 7m with a 15hp 2 stroke so about the weight of a 10hp 4 stroke. I've been through several brackets and also now have a strap over the A frame. Tried it out when broke down last summer and I'm not sure I'd want less power but I guess it depends on how far you travel. Being 2 cylinders also reassuring. Many seem to have 8hp single. But in a swell and offshore It would be a real slog. Does your engine have a limp home mode? Can you cruise in company? I'm not convinced an aux is the way to go really.
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Any serious distance from land we always try to buddy up, if just pottering round the south coast it doesn't really necessitate a aux, first there's sea start ( worth ever penny ) and secondly there's normally numerous boats around - however and I've said this before - keep on top of your boats maintenance, modern outboards are pretty reliable
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Maintenance has little to do with breakdowns in my 25 years with boats, my last one was due to bad fuel from Tesco! Had another with complete gearbox failure, like gears went bang failure.

As I said before, it is definitely a Solent thing this don't bother with an aux, relying on passing boats that will tow you in is bordering on negligent and if you are on beach before sea start reach you then you will have wanted that aux, different strokes for different folks.
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Maintenance has little to do with breakdowns in my 25 years with boats, my last one was due to bad fuel from Tesco!

As I said before, it is definitely a Solent thing this don't bother with an aux, relying on passing boats that will tow you in is bordering on negligent.
'Maintenance has little to do with breakdowns' Unbelievable!!

And regarding all the boats around the world that turn to others for help in a situation what ever the circumstances - there ALL negligent??

We're not on different pages - we're libraries apart on life!!

Oh, RNLI 'No particular trends have been identified although mechanical breakdowns remain one of the main reasons for lifeboat launches in our area.'
Official lifeboats launch statistics issued by RNLI - Eastbourne RNLI

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'Maintenance has little to do with breakdowns' Unbelievable!!

And regarding all the boats around the world that turn to others for help in a situation what ever the circumstances - there ALL negligent??
I think it's strange that you feel you're responsibility for your own and your crew's safety ends with good maintenance of your engine and beyond that it's everyone else's responsibility to look out for you..........
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I think it's strange that you feel you're responsibility for your own and your crew's safety ends with good maintenance of your engine and beyond that it's everyone else's responsibility to look out for you..........
And.................I never said that

Might have paid you to read my earlier post

And I quote,

'Any serious distance from land we always try to buddy up, if just pottering round the south coast it doesn't really necessitate a aux, first there's sea start ( worth ever penny ) and secondly there's normally numerous boats around - however and I've said this before - keep on top of your boats maintenance, modern outboards are pretty reliable '

Explain to me what's wrong with the above?

Oh. looks like Xk59D has conveniently amended his post (16), maybe he felt his stance was a little vulnerable.
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'Maintenance has little to do with breakdowns' Unbelievable!!

And regarding all the boats around the world that turn to others for help in a situation what ever the circumstances - there ALL negligent??

We're not on different pages - we're libraries apart on life!!

Oh, RNLI 'No particular trends have been identified although mechanical breakdowns remain one of the main reasons for lifeboat launches in our area.'
Official lifeboats launch statistics issued by RNLI - Eastbourne RNLI

You are reading (and quoting) what you want and not what I wrote, I shall say again as it seems to have bypassed you.

Going out and relying on-

1. Others being there to save your a$$

2. Them willing to help

3. Being able to help, they might be in a sailing dinghy, wtf are they going to do to drag your a$$ away from shore exactly?

If you lose your battery your engine isn't starting nor are you making a VHF call, you confident of getting a mobile signal offshore?

I also said in MY boating life maintenance didn't help MY, (see that word)..breakdowns.

Going to sea and relying on others is bordering on negligence, if my main engine and aux break down then at least when the RNLI arrive I don't feel a complete twerp, looks like your library is different right enough....

"Unbelievable"

P.s I didn't edit out anything, I was still typing on phone champ, thanks for playing anyway.
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