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Old 07 December 2005, 21:49   #11
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Just had a full service on my Opti which has done 400 hours. £456. They charged me £4 to spray WDF (wd40) around the thing.
Yea but be fair............

they had to move 500 bales just to see it
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Old 07 December 2005, 22:29   #12
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thats because they know how well off you are!!



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Just had a full service on my Opti which has done 400 hours. £456. They charged me £4 to spray WDF (wd40) around the thing.
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Old 07 December 2005, 23:05   #13
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USA cheaper????

just picked up my DF 90 from its 100hr service yesterday.
Main Suzuki dealer in San Diego charged me $85.00 labor and $51.00 parts
($33.00 engine oil/filter and $18.00 gear oil ) Checked engine /controls and greased for a total of just under $140.00
Thought that was pretty reasonable
cheers Dal
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Old 07 December 2005, 23:52   #14
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just picked up my DF 90 from its 100hr service yesterday.
Main Suzuki dealer in San Diego charged me $85.00 labor and $51.00 parts
($33.00 engine oil/filter and $18.00 gear oil ) Checked engine /controls and greased for a total of just under $140.00
Thought that was pretty reasonable
cheers Dal
USA Cheaper? Are you kidding me? Only by about 1/2. That's about 80 Sovs here.

We ARE the most ripped off and overtaxed nation on the planet. Weep for us...
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Old 09 December 2005, 08:30   #15
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OK had the service done came in at 146.57 all in.

Got the print out from the engine management system.

Do any mechanics out there know what this stuff means - i have broken down the file into a header and a footer and a repeating caution section which i assume was the condition of the engine when the (in my case) the low battery warnings were recorded (i think these were me turning off the power at the isolator switch)

But the bit I would like to know is what are the normal / min / max values for the stuff in the "SERVICE DATA" section (in bold below)

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CRUSE - 20 HR
Save date,2005/12/8
Comment
Engine No.,1400lF-516539
Boat Type,RIBCRAFT
Description,
Engine information
Power,140PS
ECM ID.33920-92J40
Spec.,---
Engine Type,4 stroke,2045cc

SERVICE DATA
Item,Data,Unit
ENGINE SPEED, 719,rpm
IGNITION TIMING,BTDC 8,°
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE, 260,mmHg
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE,34.6,kPa
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE,10.23,inHg
BAROMETRIC PRESSURE, 768,mmHg
BAROMETRIC PRESSURE,102.4,kPa
BAROMETRIC PRESSURE,30.27,inHg
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE, 60,°C
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE, 139,°F
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE, 12,°C
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE, 54,°F
BATTERY VOLTAGE,14.72,V
FUEL INJ. PULSE WIDTH, 3720, nano s
INJECTED FUEL AMOUNT, 12,mcc
FUEL PUMP DUTY,55.2,%
IAC VALVE DUTY,31.3,%
N0. OF MAP SENSOR FAILURE, 0, titles
N0. OF CKP SENSOR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF IAC VALVE FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF CMP SENSOR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF CTP SWITCH FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF CYL. TEMP. SNSR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF IAT SENSOR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF EX. TEMP. SNSR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF FUEL INJECTOR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF OVER-REVOLUTION, 0,times
N0. OF LOW BATTERY VOLTAGE, 2,times
N0. OF LOW OIL PRESSURE, 0,times
N0. OF OVERHEAT(GRADIENT), 0,times
N0. OF OVERHEAT(TEMP.), 0,times

caution system name (1),low battery,
ENGINE SPEED (1), 0,rpm
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (1), 753,mmHg
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (1),100.4,kPa
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (1),29.68,inHg
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (1), 19,°C
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (1), 66,°F
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (1), 20,°C
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (1), 68,°F
ex-mani TEMPERATURE (1), 19,°C
ex-mani TEMPERATURE (1), 67,°F
FAILURE TIME (1), 0,h
ELAPSE OF TIME (1), 0,min

caution system name (2),low battery,
ENGINE SPEED (2), 0,rpm
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (2) 750,mmHg
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (2) 99.9,kPa
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (2) 29.53,-inHg
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (2), 18, C
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (2), 65, F
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (2), 19,'C
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (2), 66,°F
EX-MANI TEMPERATURE (2), 19,°C
EX-MANI TEMPERATURE (2), 66,°F
FAILURE TIME (2), 0,h
ELAPSE OF TIME (2), 0,min

CAUTION SYSTEM NAME (3),No Data,
ENGINE SPEED (3), 0,rpm
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (3) 0,mmHg
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (3) 0.0,kPa
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (3) 0.00,-inHg
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (3), -50, C
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (3), -58, F
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (3), -50,°C
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (3), -58,°F
EX-MANI TEMPERATURE (3), -50,°C
EX-MANI TEMPERATURE (3), -58,°F
FAILURE TIME (3), 0,h
elapse OF time (3), 0,rmn

TOTAL OPERATION TIME (HRS.), 23,h
TOTAL OPERATION TIME (MIN.), 50,min
0-1000 rpm, 564,mm
1000-2000 RPM 248 min
2000-3000 RPM 188 min
3000-4000 RPM 248 min
4000-5000 RPM 140 min
5000-6000 RPM 38 min
ABOVE 6000 RPM, 4,min
ELAPSE TIME FROM REMINDER CANCEL, 0,h
NO. OF OIL CHANGE REMINDER, 1,times
COMPENSATION FACTOR (ZONE 1),1.000,
COMPENSATION FACTOR (ZONE 2),1.000,
COMPENSATION FACTOR (ZONE 3),1.000,
TIME OF LAST 02 FEEDBACK, 0,h
EMERGENCY STOP SWITCH,OFF,
CTP SWITCH,ON,
NEUTRAL SWITCH,ON,
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Old 09 December 2005, 11:56   #16
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USA Cheaper? Are you kidding me? Only by about 1/2. That's about 80 Sovs here.

We ARE the most ripped off and overtaxed nation on the planet. Weep for us...
Not quite, I think Holland give us a good run for our money in the taxed to "F" dept.
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Old 09 December 2005, 11:57   #17
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Yea but be fair............

they had to move 500 bales just to see it
Maybe I need to check the small print for the £100 "Cow Shit" surcharge.
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Old 09 December 2005, 12:03   #18
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thats because they know how well off you are!!

You're joking! These guys are in Rock which is across the water from Padstein. Rock is known locally as "Kensington on Sea" When I roll into Rock in my truck with my arse hanging out of my jeans they think that the new age travellers are coming and call the Police!!
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