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Old 25 January 2006, 14:34   #1
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suzuki 250hp vs verado 250

wondering if i could have any help on either of these engines looking to put one of them on the back of my 7.5 cobra rib.which one would be better suited to the job for watersports, accleration and top end speed.Have heard that both them are good but verado can be seen un reliable because of all of the electrinics.Can any one help me on these two engines
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Old 25 January 2006, 14:38   #2
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That's a good one

I went for the Suzuki.

But I really think that I would choose the one, where I would get the best service.

I don't think you will get anyone to really tell you which one is best, it's up to you.

It really dosn't matter which one you choose, you will end up loving it, and then complaining about fuel price

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Old 25 January 2006, 14:39   #3
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Hmmm, post ended up here 2 times,

I must be getting old

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I would go for the Suzuki. Its pretty closely matched performance wise better on fuel and it’s about £5k cheaper than the Verado far less complicated. The Verado is a very good idea and a bit of design genius but how long till things start going wrong big time like. Cram to much stuff into a small box that gets sprayed with salt water on a regular basis and you are going to get problems.
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Old 25 January 2006, 15:45   #5
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If they were the same price it would be a lot harder to choose but as the Suzuki is really aggresively priced AND 31kgs lighter.......
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I went for Verado 275 (same as 250) and I am confident it is the best outboard on the market in this range.

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Old 25 January 2006, 16:16   #7
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Go for the suzuki better price and if its only as good as the verardo you can buy a lot of fuel for the £1,000s you will save and as someone as already said there is a lot less to go wrong, I know of one 250 Suzuki that as well over a thousand hours on it with no probleams.
I dont hate the verardo just cant see what the big deal is for the extra money
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Old 25 January 2006, 16:19   #8
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I went for Verado 275 (same as 250) and I am confident it is the best outboard on the market in this range.
What makes it better than the Suzuki? Or an Etec for that matter?

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Old 25 January 2006, 16:47   #9
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What makes it better than the Suzuki? Or an Etec for that matter?

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I said I am confident the Verado is the best engine to my opinion......... others may feel other makes better for them.

In the end it is up to each and individual to choose......
question was asked and I replied my opinion.

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In the end it is up to each and individual to choose......
question was asked and I replied my opinion.
I know that.

I'm interested in why you made that decision. I'm not suggesting that you're wrong, but you have clearly done a lot of research in order to be so confident, so I was hoping you might share your reasoning with the rest of us.

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Old 26 March 2006, 20:14   #11
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Quietness.

Hi guys,
I was just reading through this thread, and as I had the chance to try out a 275 Verado on a Marlin this afternoon, I would like to clarify another point.
The power steering, smoothness in acceleration, and silence of the engine were easily noticeable.
So, I would like to know: how quiet and how responsive is the Suzuki?
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Old 26 March 2006, 20:38   #12
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Just remember Suzuki are bringing out a 300hp with fly by wire controls very soon!!!

Depending on weight guess what I may treat myself to next year......
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Tx.

Tx. Codprawn. Can The 300 will be interesting. In the meantime, can anyone give me a mor einfo. on the 250?
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I went out on a rib at the Southampton show, I guess it would be around 6.5m long. It had a 250 Suzuki, with I beleive a few hundred hours on it.

The engine at tick over was totally slient - quite genuinely the loudest noise was the tell tale hitting the water. Underway it was ultra, ultra smooth and flat out, it was just awesome. I was so impressed that I cancelled my order for another engine and ordered a 140hp Suzuki.

For my money, like cars, if you want reliability go for Japenese etc.....

I too think the Verado looks great, but I'm not sure that anyone has designeded there outboards as well as Suzuki - mind you their two strokes back in the 80's and 90's where just horrendous, but this reputation seems to have been shaken off now.

Yep, save some money and go get a 250 Suzuki, I can really see how you could ever be disappointed with this engine. As above, if fly by wire is important, then maybe go the Verado or wait for the new 300hp Suzuki.

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Have you looked at a Yamaha 250 and if not why
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Old 29 March 2006, 01:05   #16
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Re: suzuki vs verado

Gentlemen, I see quite a bit of posts regarding Mercury, Suzuki, Etec (Evinrude) but not much mention of Yamaha. Is this because they do not have much market penetration in the U.K.? Or is it due to pricing? I ask because for many years I was loyal to American outboards regardless of occasional niggling problems and downtime with the boat due to the repairs. Ten years ago the occasion was presented to purchase a used Yamaha outboard. End of reliability issues. In fact, with the four Yamaha's I have owned since I have never had a problem of any sort. This kind of reliability has me convinced purchasing any other brand makes no sense, kind of like wanting to join in the game of russian roulette, moneywise. Now maybe I am just lucky, but I am wondering what experience others have had out there.... any takers?
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We have some charter ribs with twin engine. The suz I have seen was not impresive. silens but no torch. I'm using mercury verado's 2x275 and 2x250
The torch in the engine is realy good.
I can't see why the other engine markes are going for power steering and fly by wire. when it is not working.? or
I belive that it is the best 4 stroke right now. (it will also come in 300)
I have been racing agenst the Yam 2x300hpdi with the 2x250verado and with no prob sailing from him.
Verado. downs: hevy. big torch(strong transome). more money. litle more fuel with full trottle.
Verado. Ups: price incl. power steering/hemp/cables/cylinder (no extra cost) fly by wire. the torch. easy to setup.(no cable ajustment)

I went from Etec 250 to verado's 250 and now 275.
For me it is the speed and torch. and with 14 people in the rib we can do 60kn. that fine with me

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Old 30 March 2006, 06:27   #18
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Tx guys.

Tx. guys. Plenty of food for thought in these posts. Grreat site ActionBoat.
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Old 30 March 2006, 07:47   #19
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Rupert - We are in the process of fitting out our 2006 demonstrator with a Verado 250, if you want to try the engine pm or email me
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Old 30 March 2006, 13:01   #20
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A couple of points.

Tx. Cookee. I might take you on that the next time I am in the UK.

Actionboat. I don't find Ravenribs on the web. Who constructs them?

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