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Old 19 September 2002, 14:12   #11
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Nigel,

Have you had her re-tubed? They look very shiney! Any idea of the year (i ask because i have a DS 18 too!)
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Old 19 September 2002, 15:27   #12
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I know this is of no use to flanker now but with ref. to auxiliary engines, I feel that most donkeys are not big enough. Some will disagree, but I have always found a bit of extra power never goes amiss. From my own experiences I use an 8hp shortshaft on a three position bracket which is bolted to the transom. The wooden mounting plate has two circular recesses cut out for the mounting lugs . The tightening handles are then tied together with a cable tie so they cannot come undone. I would recommend that even if you have no room on the transom, carry the engine in the boat. Its easy enough to make a mount out of two pieces of 3/4 marine ply glued together and bolted to a backrest. It also pays to try and see if you can lift it onto the transom in any sort of chop. Also if your main is 4/ or 2/ keep the donkey the same. Its personal choice whether to carry an auxiliary but I wouldn't want to activate an RNLI resource for a simple mechanical problem. As for engines, the yamaha malta is a really punchy lump for its size and ideal for a back up on the average 5m. This brings up another question. Should the RNLI charge for mechanical breakdown tow ins where there is no immediate threat to life.
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Old 19 September 2002, 16:05   #13
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I am depressed at the moment, it is the first time I have had an interest that I found interesting, make sense? I think it is the sense of humour that I like as well, unlike the yacht types. Anyway I understand that others read these threads so I will keep going until I get a reply tomorrow re my complaint to them.

Anyway the 9.8 Tohatsu is apparently the best weight to power ratio engine, hence my choice. I can't say any more as I am getting choked up thinking of the boat I got excited about buying(just a joke)

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Old 19 September 2002, 16:07   #14
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The RNLI should charge for mechanical breakdown tows, but it would never work.

You would end up with the RNLI crew taking credit card details as the stricken vessel blows onto the rocks. What happens if they don't pay? Do they get left there.

I hope that anybody who gets rescued by the RNLI would give a large donation anyway, whatever the emergency. I would!
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Old 19 September 2002, 17:09   #15
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Hi folks

Its quite interesting that only the RNLI are considered for giving a tow.
We are all out there toghther and in you pardon the pun in the same boat.
If I heard a call for help due to mechanical breakdown I would not hesitate to offer a tow, even if it meant cancelling my trip. One day it might be me and i hope that there would be many people other than the RNLI to lend a hand.

If everyone was willing to provide, where they can safely for other boats the RNLI could be left to handle real emergencies.

I see this from a both sides in a way being a mountaineer who often relies on others for help if needed and also a member of a mountaine rescue team providing help. I dont belive help at sea is any different, if help is needed and you can help, do so as next time it may be you.

However it does not matter how much help is at hand there is never any excuse to go out ill equipped or undertake things beyond your boats of your capability.

Regards Gary (on his soap box) Greenwood
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Old 19 September 2002, 18:03   #16
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I am always willing to help others and do quite freqently. The last was a wind surfer out by cowes. If i'm close enough to help I always will.

Trouble is there are days when there arn't any other boats out and the RNLI would be the only people around to help. I went out a couple of weeks ago on my own in the afternoon, I only saw one yacht while crossing from Poole to Yarmouth.

To be honest I don't think there are any people on this forum would go to see without being 'properly' equipped. It tends to be the people who try and start their engine while tilted right up and attached to their car on the middle of the slip after spending 20mins doing the years servicing with 2 spanners and a screw driver!
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I wonder what percentage of calls for help, VHF or otherwise, are actually responded too by a lifeboat?
I have towed other boats to safety and been towed myself.
Never yet had to call on the emergency services (touch wood).
The secret (if there is one) is to be well prepared and to cruise in company (i.e. relying on yourself first and your mates, second).
I am also told that unless conditions are "dificult", the Coastguard may be refused an lifeboat callout by the RNLI Launch Authority on the grounds that a commercial tow can and ought to be arranged instead.
PS That does NOT mean that you should either delay or abandon a call if you feel it necessary.
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Old 20 September 2002, 16:13   #18
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Hi folks

Hope the previous post was not taken the wrong way.

This is a subject close to heart as all be it on the mountains I see 50 idiots in trouble, wrong gear, wrong place etc for every person who did everything right and was just unlucky.

I think people on RIB Net are those who are interested in there chosen interest, want to do thing right and take the care and preperation needed to be safe and are only happy to provide help to others. The sort of people I would want out with me

I am however sure that there are many people out there who think, it will never happen to them and who needs saftey gear anyway thats what the lifeboat get paid for. Well it will happen sooner rather than later it this attitude is taken and thats not what the lifeboats get paid for as they dont get paid.

Its a pity that most of them will never bother to read this and think. As the people reading this have already taken a interest, thought and are hopefully doing things right.

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