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Old 10 December 2009, 14:25   #11
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the motor below 9.9HP is produced with Japaness techonic.These engine are popular in Japan and Australia.But Selva is a Italian brand,also welcome in Italy.
We have more than 4 years experiance about the small engine,we also agree the quality is not very good,even bad at the first,but we trust we can be better and better.thank you
Well I recon that most of this statement has been lost in the translation. As far as I read he's trying to get into the British market and being honest by saying that at first the reliability wasn't so good, but 4 years on things have improved.

I'm not so sure that RIBnet is the best Idea to be getting a new brand of outboard into a country though.

So unless you are offering us Free or Ultra Cheap Low HP outboards as auxiliary outboards or for our tenders so that we can trial and test for you and endorse your product I might suggest approaching a main Marine based business to sell these for you.
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Old 10 December 2009, 15:02   #12
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Don't get too excited about it - they're 2-strokes, so won't satisfy the emissions standards required for leisure use.
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Old 10 December 2009, 15:39   #13
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Is there a point to this thread?
Absolutely not, the guy has just thrown himself into an empty pool...

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Old 11 December 2009, 06:45   #14
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Absolutely not, the guy has just thrown himself into an empty pool...

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If there cheap enough it might be worth while as an anchor?
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Old 11 December 2009, 07:55   #15
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made in china = fail
if you know the disadvantage of our product,you are welcomed to put forward.But I DON'T AGREE what you said.Every country has it's good and bad product,not only China.And not everything made in China =fail.I can say the Chinese brand must be the popular brand. And Please notice we just talk about the outboard motor here,not the country.thank you.
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Old 11 December 2009, 10:58   #16
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A few observations, as I guess none of you have actually bothered to google "Selva"......

- they have a range of 4- strokes, therefore presumably pass the Emissions regs
- That case on the wee one in the first pic looks familiar, I just can't pin down which of the "big name" brands it looks remarkably like. I refer you to "exhibit A" - the Tohatsu / Merc / Mariner / Johnson / Evinrude 3.5 & it's many Hp variants......
- How long ago was it that you wouldn't have touched a Skoda with a barge pole? 20 years later and it's common Knowledge that you are getting a low price reliable VW. It's just a theory of mine at the moment (Selva site "large" pics seem to disagree with my firewall) but I wonder whose "big brand" engines they may be closely related to.
- if it comes to that, how long ago was it you said "Tohats-who?"


Also I think you might be amazed at just how much of your "branded quality" kit is made or has a sizeable proportion of the componentry made in China.

Rambling back to Selva, I notice that the 25 / 30 Hp Seagulls are all 2 cylinder premix. I suspect we may be looking at some '70s design machines, which ironically means you could be getting potentially 10-15 years or so of development inherited from the originals.... For the markets where they are allowed to be sold, that strikes me as a potential bargain.

Also, who would have dreamed of a 35Hp Seagull 20 years ago......
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I wonder whose "big brand" engines they may be closely related to.
The larger Selva 4-strokes are/were identical to the Yamahas. They even said Yamaha under the cowl. I've got a picture somewhere.
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- if it comes to that, how long ago was it you said "Tohats-who?"
It wasn't long ago that they were seen as a cheap and cheerful second best. Look how sought after their lightweight 2-strokes are now. In fact I gbought one last week!

I'm not aware of either Selva or Tohatsu sourcing anything in China, but it's perfectly possible.

My experience of Chinese manufacturing is that they are perfectly capable of building excellent kit but that tends not to get noticed. There is undeniably a lot of poor quality stuff coming from China too, and it may not be possible to tell the difference until you actually get your hands on it.
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Old 11 December 2009, 15:04   #18
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I will second the last post.I have only had limited exposure to Chinese manufacturing,but from my dealings the factory manager emailed me with detailed instructions and pictures from every step of the manufacturing process of our boats and could not do enough for us,also when the boats arrived they were much better than we had anticipated,all apart from one boat which had a hairline crack in the gelcoat bow section.I then sent feedback to the factory manager showing him the fault and on our second order he included a complete boat for free in the shipment.(I am quite sure that this boat was immaculate leaving the factory,but judging by the state of some of the shipping crates they came in the dock handlers caused this crack)
That crack took approximately two hours to repair properly,giving us a complete boat for nothing!!!!!!
Now thats what I call looking after your customers,so there are good and bad in all manufacturers regardless of the country of origin.
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Old 12 December 2009, 06:09   #19
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thank you for all the friends.
we are a boat manufacturer in China,the engine is not produced by ourself,but we tested the engine with our boats.I hadn't said the engine is perfect,but must be high cost-effective.we have 4 years experiance,not 14years,so they still have some small problems.we are trying our best to improve these engine.Besides that,such as selva,they promised to offer 1% free parts of total money.
most of our customer like buy the boat together with the engine,but the price of mercury or yamaha is too high.You know the economy crisis let our wallet shrinkly.so we think not everybody can afford these "large brand" engine.
and we also trust this brand will be "large brand" after 10 or 20years.
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