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Old 05 July 2006, 17:23   #11
Country: UK - England
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Make: Avon SR/RibLite 3.1m
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I too have a Yamaha Malta and it's a cracker, although as Alex says it's a tad heavier than the other 3.3/3.5 engines. All the modern baby 4-strokes have the oil seepage problem and having previously owned a Yamaha 4hp 4-stroke, I wouldn't entertain the idea of another one. The Johnson 3.5hp is a very highly regarded engine, is about 4kgs lighter than the Malta and far more substantial than the Tohatsu/Merc/Mariner. New ones available for £380 and currently advertised on Boatsandoutboards. Would definitely get the Johnnie in preference to the Tohatsu:

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Old 06 July 2006, 00:10   #12
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Another problem I have had with a tohatsu 3.5 is the sheerpin seems to be made of very soft material and breaks at the slightest excuse,never found anything on the prop and not hit anything so assume its debris in the water but I averaged a sheerpin roughly every five trips on a tender.

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Old 06 July 2006, 02:43   #13
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That was also mentioned. Apparently people have taken to buying shearpins in packs of 5!

People seem to hang onto these Johnson 3.5s, which is probably a good sign but makes finding a cheap one less easy.

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Old 06 July 2006, 03:50   #14
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Yamaha Malta

Starts first time, even after 6 months in the shed
Fitted a kill cord to mine, very easy to do!
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Old 06 July 2006, 08:55   #15
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Fairweather marine has a 3hp Johnson list on their website.

Have never used them so can't vouch for their service.
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Old 06 July 2006, 09:11   #16
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We ordered a 5hp mariner and it arrived next day, great service
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Old 06 July 2006, 14:55   #17
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Visited Kings Marine today and they had quite a few small outboards in stock both new and 2nd hand. one in perticuliar 4hp Yamaha 2s new, I think sub £400 I think, but there where at least another 4 or 5 various ones on show.
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Old 06 July 2006, 15:31   #18
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Ben's outboards (see another recently thread - hes on Hayling Island but will post) has loads of small used outboards. They're all very reasonable if I recall, and they normally come with a months warentee.
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Old 07 July 2006, 14:36   #19
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Originally Posted by John Kennett
I think I'd better stick with a 2-stroke as the engine is likely to be chucked into the boot of a car quite a lot, and I can't be sure to keep it right side up. I know they don't have to be kept vertical, but I wouldn't want to end up with oil where it shouldn't be!

Or is this a non-issue with a modern small 4-stroke? There must be loads of them out there being abused by now!
Thanks. I'll give them and Kings a ring tomorrow....
Oh yes - it's an issue. I know how my Yam 4HP 4-stroke should be stored - and I do. I know which side it can lie on - and I do, very carefully, when transporting it. But all I have to do is look at it funny, and it floods oil into the piston (and don't start me on the carb problem...)

I'm with Phil - I wouldn't have another one.


P.S. Although when it runs - it's great...
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Old 07 July 2006, 18:21   #20
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Little honda

I had the latest 2.2 honda and used it a lot on a canoe . never a bit of oil seapage or any other problem . My mate got one for his canoe and its still going strong despite a recent drink , which it started after a quick dry out .

My honda 20 has been the same .

If you can't lay the thing down on the side with the lugs then get some oars . It seems to me most issues with engines are user error and 4 strokes are less understood by most owners .

My fathers 2.2 suzuki has so far oiled a plug and leaked due to sticky float , apart from that its a pig to use with no twist throttle and no neutral gear .

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