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Old 13 January 2004, 16:45   #11
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Good thread, at the end of last year I had to make the decision of which outboard to go for with no previous knowledge or experience of owning an outboard, which was a bit scary. I decided on the Yam 60hp 4 stroke. My decision was based partly from scouring this forum for negative comments on engines and partly from getting in the car and talking to various dealers and service centres and getting a feel for the level of confidence they had in what they were selling and how hard they were trying to sell it. A consistent theme with the yams seemed to be that no hard sell was necessary they sold themselves on a good reputation. I'm encouraged by the figures from the experienced Ribsters maybe if I had the sense to do the simple count up I wouldn't have spent so much time fretting about whether I had made a good/bad decision. For the record I've only put about 8hrs on the engine but having spent the last ten years on dodgy dive Ribs with all manner of thrashy thirsty engines I can't believe how quiet and economical the yam is.
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Old 15 January 2004, 17:36   #12
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Similarly, I had to choose a new motor last year. I had experience of using (small) outboards regularly 20-25 years ago but have had a long break since. Even though it was ancient history these experiences have stayed with me and they coloured my judgement far beyond any rational relevance. All had been second hand, my favourite was a 3.9hp Merc, probably as it was my first engine, I have no idea how old it was, probably mid-late sixties. The most reliable was a tiny 2hp Suzuki which appeared indestructable despite being appallingly badly treated. The worst were a 4hp Johnson which broke down more than it ran and a real pig of a 25hp Johnson which nobody seemed capable of repairing. So 25 years on I still couldnt bring myself to consider Johnson (or Evinrude). But getting to the point and answering the question.... There is a lot of emotion involved for some. For me it came down to Yamaha or Suzuki. I went for the Suzuki as I liked the electronic fuel injection and the idea of a timing chain rather than the usual belt. (The engine experts on here will probably inform me that Ive got that wrong). Also the Suzuki 90 is 1950cc where the Yam 100 is 1596cc so I figured the Suzi might be a little less hard worked. I too have only put a few hours on the motor so far, but Im not disappointed yet.

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Old 16 January 2004, 03:57   #13
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Sowerster used to be the Mercury people and Barrus did the Mariners, Now Barrus do both of them.
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Mariners are about 20% cheaper than Mercury, for exactly the same engine, except you get more black paint and a Mercury badge!!!
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except you get more black paint and a Mercury badge!!!
Worth it though
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Old 19 January 2004, 09:59   #16
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I`ve got a 150 Mariner Opti and was surpirsed to see about 200 nicker more for a different colour engine casing with Mercury written on the side at the LBS!

Crazy to think people will pay 200 for a label.
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Old 19 January 2004, 11:21   #17
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Mercurys do look superb! Got mine through Ribcraft who didn't do the markup, which was nice! Great looking engines though - instilling pride in the overall setup of RIB and engine.

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Old 19 January 2004, 16:06   #19
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Phil I will only use a Yamaha and/or a Mariner. Never had a problem with those 2.
Evinrude and Jonson are in my bad books.
Mercs never had one.
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Merc and Honda

We were running a load of Hondas at my Uni. They were used every day for five or six hours for a year. Then all of a sudden they started going wrong. One 40hp came back from the dealer with corrosion round the exhaust valves. Honda would not cover them on warranty because we were using them too much! (Cheap metal mix in the castings!)

Having said that they do look nice in silver.

We have now bought two 40hp, two 75Hp and one 115Hp Merc.
They do sound much better, throatier (is that a word?) than the Hondas. Also the DOHC and extra CC means they are much more powerful. (Is the hp measured at the prop on these?) No problems so far! They did not pay the premium cause of the job lot order.


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