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Old 25 November 2005, 08:04   #1
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Red diesel decision time!

Decision on this emotive subject soon http://www.ybw.co.uk/auto/newsdesk/2...56mbmnews.html

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Old 25 November 2005, 09:05   #2
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So anyone "commercial" would still have access to the cheaper red diesel if the decision went against "leisureboaters" (as I think it might well do). I wonder what their definition of "commercial" would be? Right now, people rock up in vans and pick-ups in the local marina and fill heaps of jerrycans - where it goes, nobody knows.
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one is glad one does the occasional stind on a smelly old tugboat!
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going to need a lot of jerry cans for 50ft sunseeker
I wounder what will happen to their second hand vaule
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We should do the same as any other country who doesn't agree with an EU law - just ignore it. Of course there are far too many jobsworths in this country for that to happen!!!

I remember a few years ago Blair announced that is was unfair Britain stuck to the EU laws but other countries didn't bother - he said he would instruct officials to relax the letter of the law here as well. The following week it was announced that the UK was launching a satellite to monitor British farmer's crops!!!
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Does anyone know if the red question will prohibit us from using red or just from buying it from a marina? I have just bought 1000 ltr @ 0.31 lt . i use it to run our marquee heaters . If I run a red deisel boat next year what is to stop me taking it from home in jerry cans? I would be happy to sell to anyone who wants it too.
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It's the smaller diesel boats that will be knocked around in terms of value. The bigger 40ft+ cruisers would always be preferable with diesels regardless of fuel cost. But, the smaller 18-30ft range will be hit. lb for lb a 260hp 5.7ltr Merc weighs about the same as a 175hp KAD 42 Diesel Volvo. Fuel consumption is similar. Bit of a no-brainer really.
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Does anyone know if the red question will prohibit us from using red or just from buying it from a marina? I have just bought 1000 ltr @ 0.31 lt . i use it to run our marquee heaters . If I run a red deisel boat next year what is to stop me taking it from home in jerry cans? I would be happy to sell to anyone who wants it too.
It'll be using it. It's gonna be bloody hard tp police though. Anyone ever had their diesel car dipped? I haven't.
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It'll be using it. It's gonna be bloody hard tp police though. Anyone ever had their diesel car dipped? I haven't.
It is pretty difficult to tell a diesel car from a petrol one these days and there are just too many on the roads - getting a handfull of boaters as they come into a lock is a different matter though!!!

Having said that more room to hide tanks on a boat - criminal? Yes and so are their bloody taxes!!!
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Getting dipped for red diesel is more likely in some places than others. Don't forget this is a revenue offence, and those boys are keen to say the least. At the moment it seems that farmers are an obvious choice for dipping so down here livestock markets and shows tend to attract revenue roadblocks. If a keen revenue ranger got wind that an offence was likely among the boat brigade they'd lose little time coming to have a look. Let's not forget that confiscation of the vehicle, back duty and a huge fine currently accompany prosecution for road vehicles - probably going to be similar for boats. Those committed to using red diesel might well consider fitting an extra fuel tank in an unlikely place, and having a way of switching between the two. Discoloration of fuel lines etc. could well be argued to have taken place before red diesel was made illegal.
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