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Old 28 November 2005, 06:53   #41
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Welcome to Brairs' Britian.

I am just waiting to see how long it is till we are all made to have REG numbers on the boat and next there are speed cameras on the sea… and traffic wardens at every anchorage.
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Old 28 November 2005, 07:07   #42
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If the tax concession is removed, why would we need red diesel? Just get the folk who are allowed, to claim back their tax.
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Old 28 November 2005, 07:22   #43
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It'll be a hefty fixed amount fine. Trying to calculate anything will be impossible. I still think that they just do not have the man power to police this policy. If I owned a diesel boat, I'd be having a bladder tank fitted now. The government can just about argue a case for massive duty on DERV, but pleasure boats? Pure revenue gleaning bullshit!
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If the tax concession is removed, why would we need red diesel? Just get the folk who are allowed, to claim back their tax.
Because I don't think that the government is prepared to take the aggro from fishermen and other commercial users!

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Pure revenue gleaning bullshit!
Yep, but the government just blame it on EU harmonisation that way they don't look like the bad guys, but then seem to forget that the price of diesel is much cheaper in most of the EU anyway.
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Old 28 November 2005, 07:47   #46
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Yep, but the government just blame it on EU harmonisation that way they don't look like the bad guys, but then seem to forget that the price of diesel is much cheaper in most of the EU anyway.
But surely the arguement there is for the abolishment of red diesel completely. The EU have whined on about red diesel for years. The farmers and fisherman have powerful lobbyists and for the government to go head to head with these guys is aggro, so lets hit the guys that can't hit back. And, in terms of total fuel based revenue, the additional amount gained from this will be so pathetically little why bloody bother?!! To appease the fat b**tds in Brussels!!!
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But surely the arguement there is for the abolishment of red diesel completely.
Of course that would be the simple answer, but then there wouldn't be the need for civil servants to enforce the system.
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Because I don't think that the government is prepared to take the aggro from fishermen and other commercial users!

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There wont be any aggro if Commercial users get the duty back. This is certinally the way that the fishermans associations are saying it would happen. Basically another form along with the existing duty refund, and the farmers would do the same.
I dont know however what other users i.e Construction Machinery will do......bare the costs and try to get an increase in the rate
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There wont be any aggro if Commercial users get the duty back.
I was listening to a couple of fishermen bitching about this over VHF a couple of weeks ago & they said it will hurt their cashflow because it will take upto 4 months to get back.
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