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Old 12 January 2016, 07:59   #1
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Pull start or electric start?

I'm in the market for a new 20hp Yamaha 4-stroke tiller steer

Pull-start or electric? Any pro's or con's with either. I can see electric start being a very nice feature but extra bits to go wrong, heavy battery etc?

Also, for a small 20hp tiller steer will you bother with power tilt, think I am correct that they do not come with power trim only manual?

I know I would like the full works and power tilt can come in handy in the shallows when I'm lure fishing but for the extra money is it really worth it on a tiller steer outboard?

Any views and recommendations appreciated!
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Old 12 January 2016, 08:28   #2
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You don't generally get (or ever need!) power tilt on a simple clamped on small engine like this.

Trim adjustments are not really needed either, 90% of the time it will be on the 2nd or 3rd hole out, unless you really wanted to change it for a big head or following sea at speed. Easier just to shift people/load though.

Same for electric start too - the pull is very easy even for a child to do and all the extra gubbins incl battery is just far more weight and things to go wrong.

The easiest tilt mech I have used is on the Mercs - kind of semi-automatic as you raise the engine and no lever to pull or whatever.
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Old 12 January 2016, 08:30   #3
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I cannot see a 20 hp engine been so hard to start that it requires electric strat. I would go with a pull starter. I had a 40 hp 2 stroke tiller which was easy to start.

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Old 12 January 2016, 08:35   #4
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Thanks for the feedback, I currently have a 25hp 2 stroke yam thats pull start so no issues with manual starting at all. Just getting a new rig and wanted to see if it's worth my extra hard earned and whatever other pros or cons there might have been.
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What is the new set up?
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Old 12 January 2016, 08:44   #6
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What is the new set up?
I love my aerotec Max, especially with a 25 on the back but with wife and daughter it's getting a bit cramped now, especially as we mostly use it for lure fishing so have been looking at open boats with the new Orkney longliner 2 high on the list.

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Old 12 January 2016, 13:08   #7
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I have an electric start 2str 20HP Yam. It is on remotes and the engine is out of reach of the console. If I had tiller steer not sure I would bother. I definitely wouldn't if I was lifting the engine off each time and thus having to connect batteries etc.

Certainly when I bought mine PTT wasn't available on the 20HP. If it was a planing craft with fixed seat (load) positions PTT would be nice to have but not essential. I'd not bother on a SIB. Do you have it now - if not you won't miss it. Shallow drive / tilt is not much effort.

Have you considered keeping the 25 and just selling the boat?
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Old 12 January 2016, 14:27   #8
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Hi Poly

My 25 is a short shaft, the new boat if I go for it requires a long shaft. Shame really as I would have loved to keep mine. It works great and I have confidence it. Might still keep it as I like my Aerotec.

I think I'll stick to manual start/tilt then. On the new boat it will be fixed in place as it will live on a trailer, just invisioned myself sitting there pressing buttons, such a nice sound when she tilts but also don't want to pay the extra cash uncessary. Thanks for the input guys...
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Once had a forty merc with electric start. What I did like is that it also had a pull-starter too. Good when a battery, charging or starter problem happens. I also liked that electric start motors always have a 5-8 amp battery charging system.

But yes, I agree with a poster above re the more parts/options, the more that could go wrong. I'd certainly get/check the engine serial number to find out just what year the engine is and do a wet/dry compression test before buying.
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I'm in the market for a new 20hp Yamaha 4-stroke tiller steer

Pull-start or electric? Any pro's or con's with either. I can see electric start being a very nice feature but extra bits to go wrong, heavy battery etc?

Also, for a small 20hp tiller steer will you bother with power tilt, think I am correct that they do not come with power trim only manual?

I know I would like the full works and power tilt can come in handy in the shallows when I'm lure fishing but for the extra money is it really worth it on a tiller steer outboard?

Any views and recommendations appreciated!
i have a 25hp suzuiki manual one pull starts it with very little effort a lot less than wheeling the boat round with the weight of a battery and starter motor
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