Power trim/tilt not working

codprawn · 09 July 2006, 20:46

Hopefully nothing too serious? Engine as perfect as ever but when I lifted the engine out of the water the trim/tilt just stopped working suddenly. Now it is totally dead - either through the throttle switch or using the switch on the engine nothing happens at all - dead as a dodo!!! Engine is about 90% tilted right out - skeg just touching the water.

Anyone got any ideas? Is there some sort of relay to reset etc? Help Nasher!!!

Mrs Jardon · 09 July 2006, 20:49

hopefully the engine is still under warranty? is it?

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Hopefully nothing too serious? Engine as perfect as ever but when I lifted the engine out of the water the trim/tilt just stopped working suddenly. Now it is totally dead - either through the throttle switch or using the switch on the engine nothing happens at all - dead as a dodo!!! Engine is about 90% tilted right out - skeg just touching the water.

Anyone got any ideas? Is there some sort of relay to reset etc? Help Nasher!!!

codprawn · 09 July 2006, 20:55

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Originally Posted by Mrs Jardon

hopefully the engine is still under warranty? is it?

Hopefully but considering the rather prolonged delivery time.......

mdt · 09 July 2006, 21:12

you checked the fuse has not gone? working on the checking the simple things 1st ? one of the club ribs was always blowing the trim fuse untill the real fult was tracked down.

codprawn · 09 July 2006, 21:18

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Originally Posted by mdt

you checked the fuse has not gone? working on the checking the simple things 1st ? one of the club ribs was always blowing the trim fuse untill the real fult was tracked down.

That is what I am hoping - I assume it will be a pretty big fuse? Will have a look when the weather is a bit better.

mdt · 09 July 2006, 21:22

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Originally Posted by codprawn

That is what I am hoping - I assume it will be a pretty big fuse? Will have a look when the weather is a bit better.

75 4stroke 15amp

if it is the fues you will still need to find out WHY? or

......... stick in a bigger fues, joke all calm down

Nos4r2 · 10 July 2006, 01:39

It might be worth checking your battery connections too. Mine refused to work immediately after installing the engine-all it was was a duff connection on the battery-but everything else on the boat worked as it didn't draw as much power as the PTT.

Alex Brown · 10 July 2006, 07:36

Do you still have ignition? and will the engine turn over still?

The PTT will draw a bit of power, but if a fuse has gone, you should probably find out why it has gone in the first place, unless the one in there now isn't the correct size.

-Alex

Erin · 10 July 2006, 08:15

I don't know if it's anything like the four strokes, but on mine there's a relay and fuse in the plastic 'electronics box' mounted on the side of the engine block. Check the connections whilst you're at it. Also check the earth wires are all in place.

Spose it might be worth checking the leg can be moved by hand. Loosen the overide screw on the hydraulic ram/pump and check you can raise and lower the leg by hand.

Simon Hawkins · 10 July 2006, 08:32

Have you checked the connection behind the throttle as this may on disconnected. This is where the wire comes from the throttle button and connects to the main wire leading to the engine.

Simon

DGR · 10 July 2006, 15:58

I don't know if its true on their bigger engines, but apparently some Suzuki engines were delivered with fuses that were too small/under-rated/wrong size. If it's the trim fuse that's blown, check the right size was fitted. That was the prob with our club boat - but that was with a Suz 40.

Hope this helps...

D...

ali_seton · 10 July 2006, 16:23

this has recently happened to my uncles band new boat, what the problem was on my uncles was behind the battery switch there was just one tiny element coming from the holder, we got a man in he just put the element back in and it was fine.

hope this helps

codprawn · 10 July 2006, 18:16

Just tried it - won't start either - can hear something whirring when the ignition is on(fuel pump or similar) but that is all - no clicks - nothing.

Nos4r2 · 10 July 2006, 21:36

Whirring or buzzing slightly?

The buzzing noise is what came from my mariner when I had a dodgy battery connection. When the cowl was on it could be mistaken for a whine but I think it was the trim solenoid trying to work with insufficient power.

Hugh Jardon · 11 July 2006, 08:20

you mentioned in another thread that your battery was flat even though it was 140 amps, but in this thread you have not mentioned this.

is this the cause of your problems?

might help folks save some time researching this if you know the problem and resolution

codprawn · 11 July 2006, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

you mentioned in another thread that your battery was flat even though it was 140 amps, but in this thread you have not mentioned this.

is this the cause of your problems?

might help folks save some time researching this if you know the problem and resolution

I didn't mention it because I changed the battery......

Nick Hearne · 11 July 2006, 14:51

Had this happen to me, not enough juice in the battery! Charged up the battery & all sorted

djbk · 11 July 2006, 18:35

get someone to check the power trim solinoid, might not have one but should do
as for not cranking over could be the starter motor could be knackered, the drive dog that turns the engine over might be jammed or seased, other vise the starter motor might be buggered.
take it to your local workshop or dealer and get them to check it out!!!
hope this helps

Downhilldai · 11 July 2006, 20:53

I don't think the starter motor / starter solenoid and the power tilt solenoid will have packed up simultaneously on a new(ish) engine.
More likely to be a problem with the cabling between the battery and the motor, but I assume you've checked all these connections?

AndrewH · 11 July 2006, 21:26

Codders - Doesn't help with the solving the problem of why the electrics are upset, but if you need to get it all the way out of the water you'll probably find a hydraulic bleed nut/screw near the cylinder. Giving that a quarter turn (or more as necessary) should allow you to move the hydraulic fluid within the system and get it the last bit of the way up. All you need then is the gang of beefy lads to lift the bloody thing the last bit of the way

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Don't forget to shut the valve off once in place or gravity will do its thing

Had a similar problem on my yammy - but stuck in the down position - once I found where the bleed valve was it came up a treat.