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Old 16 July 2004, 19:00   #1
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perfumed 2 stroke oil

Years ago, you used to be able to buy a pleasant smelling 2 stroke oil for racing motorcycles, haven't had the same pleasant nasal experience since.

If I'm going to inhale fumes they might as well be good ones. Are there any marine 2 stroke oils that smell the same, or am i being a bit weird?
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Old 16 July 2004, 19:02   #2
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I think you are talking about castrol R two stroke oil.........


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Old 16 July 2004, 20:28   #3
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I find Quicksilver smells nicer than Castrol (I think it's castrol - its green anyway!) I can actually smell the Quicksilver without gagging!
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Wasn't Castrol R first used by the 4-stroke boys?... actualy was castor oil based wasn't it?... Mmm nice.. The "synthetic" 2 stroke first produced which "smelt nice" was Belray, wasn't it....
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Just buy a 4 stroke and stop complaining LOL


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As Jono says, the original Castrol R was castor based and it should not be used as a two stroke oil except in model engine fuel. (It doesn't mix well with petrol but it does with methanol.) I've a feeling it's formulation has changed and, also, there is an alternative, Castrol M. It's all in the distant past so a bit hazy.

It was used for racing machines but it gums up if left in the motor for prolonged periods.

You are right, it did smell nice.
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Just buy a 4 stroke and stop complaining LOL Doug
Sacrilege, Never, horrible thirsty things only fit for tractors

"There is nothing like the smell of burning 2 stoke oil in the morning"
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As Jono says, the original Castrol R was castor based and it should not be used as a two stroke oil except in model engine fuel. (It doesn't mix well with petrol but it does with methanol.)
You are right, it did smell nice.
I used to race karts (a while ago now!) and we used to use Castrol R - there were two formulations, R 30 and R40 - can't remember the differance but they both smelled great!
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Rubbish.......All 2 stroke smells nice!
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I used to race karts (a while ago now!) and we used to use Castrol R
Cookee, were they 2 strokes?
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Cookee, were they 2 strokes?
Yes - I started with a Villiers 210cc which was a derivitive of the 197cc 4 speed invalid carriage - the turqoise ones, and went on to race 125cc Rotax engines which were originally built for racing snowmobiles!

All racing karts are 2 strokes except the commercial ones that you turn up and pay to race, and the cadet class, although it has been a while since I was directly involved my Godson is quite succesfull now as is his brother.
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OK, I stand corrected. I once put castrol R in me lawn mower. Nothing else to hand. It was ef you see kayed after an hour. Completely.
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Na your all wrong

If its a fully bodied smell you want you just cant beat some good diesel fumes

Reaches the parts of your lungs other dont come near.

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You're not going to believe.....

..it but my company supplies around 50 tons of perfume each year to B.P for use in 2 stroke oil. We mainly supply the Far East but more recently we've been selling the same in the Middle East and Africa. It's not cheap stuff either.
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If you want the "Sniiiiiiiiifffffffffff Rrrrr" experiance go to the Goowood Revival meeting. All the 2 stroke bikes still use it. Wonderfull.

Cookee. I used to have a Viliers 9E powered kart. (I learned to drive with it, on slicks on grass ) Ran that on R as well. The engine in mine was from a Grieves trial bike.
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Errrmmmmm!

Ever heard of the TC-W3 spec?

Well apparently this is the ONLY spec oil you should be using unless you would like to see your warranties cancelled!

Now Quicksilver oil is about 45e per Gallon which I find outrageous.
A friend of mine has come up with a TC-W3 spec oil from Q8 selling for approx 4e per liter here in Greece.
Much nicer aint it?
Then again Mercury marketing speak goes on about how their Quicksilver oil is the only one good for blah blah blah and the pistons blah blah ...

As for Castrol R?
Love the smell but I wouldn't put it in an outboard, especially an injected, optimaxed, Fichted one.

Use semisynth oil and be better safe than sorry.

Oh, and if you (like me) have no particular taste for the morning 2t mist and perfume, just save some dosh and buy a 4t engine next time.
I know I will.
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